[Rwp] EQ, frequencies, spectrum analizers?

Chris Smart csmart8 at cogeco.ca
Sat Jan 30 12:07:53 EST 2016


Hi Patrick. That's very interesting about 44.1 versus 48.
Does 48 just seem clearer in some way?

I've heard some 192K stuff and have several SACD's. For me at least, 
I can't separate out any differences in better mastering of the 
recordings, better converter designs etc. from actual audible 
differences in sample rates. I suppose I could downsample some of it 
and see if I detect anything.

When I was a kid, I'd walk into the local library and they'd have 
maybe two dozen CRT's switched on. It was dizzying, headache 
inducing, and not at all fun!

Chris

At 11:39 AM 1/30/2016, you wrote:
>Ah, for the days of being able to hear 15k. I think I now top out 
>somewhere around 10 or 11. The good news is this means I don't hear 
>CRTs anymore, now that there are virtually no CRTs to generate noise. Oh well.
>I have interesting CRT-related stories I could tell.
>
>It's interesting though, because, although I've lost a significant 
>part of the high end, I can still tell a difference between 44.1 hz 
>and 48000 hz. I guess it's all in the harmonics. It's not just the 
>extreme highs.
>
>On 1/30/2016 11:34 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>then you might need to acoustically treat your room, invest in better
>>monitors etc. But I definitely hear what you're saying. I'm almost 40
>>and anything above 15K is more difficult to hear for me now.
>>
>>As for sub-sonic, you can often feel the cones of your drivers moving
>>even if you can't hear that stuff.
>>
>>
>>At 03:16 AM 1/30/2016, you wrote:
>>>thing is, while that works in most situations, what if the problem
>>>frequency is beyond the range of your hearing, either because it's
>>>sub-sonic or just too high to hear, particularly if you're recording
>>>at high sample rates or if you're just getting on in years.
>>>
>>>Plus spectrum analysers can provide a quick fix if you're using less
>>>than ideal equipment or working in a less than ideal listening
>>>environment.
>>>
>>>For example, if you're in a bad acoustic environment, frequencies may
>>>sound problematic that actually aren't because of standing waves,
>>>
>>>Justin
>>>
>>>On 30/01/2016 05:13, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>I just use what ever material I want to fix.
>>>>Something that is muddy or has a problem frequency.
>>>>If you make a narrow q,
>>>>For instance  something like
>>>>re-eq,
>>>>then you set the q down low to something like 0.5 and then exagerate
>>>>the frequency
>>>>by tturning up the gain to a high value.
>>>>Then   you sweep the frequency up and down.
>>>>Any place you hit which has an abundance of a frequency will really
>>>>sonically stick out.
>>>>So then you can find your center point and pull it down to taste.
>>>>Nothing like using your ears.
>>>>
>>>>On 1/29/2016 6:46 AM, Juan Bello wrote:
>>>>>hi list.
>>>>>
>>>>>I finally got everything going again with this computer, including
>>>>>nice recording equipment so am all set and probably overly excited!
>>>>>But today the question is about mixing, and EQ. There is a very
>>>>>interesting article on Sonic scoop that talks about subtractive EQ.
>>>>>that is, you take out some evidently probelmatic EQ bands to improve
>>>>>the sounds of individual instruments. They suggest using a spectrum
>>>>>analizar but also a plug in that is able to isolate that problematic
>>>>>band so you can compare and ocntrast differences. Apparently boosting
>>>>>certain bands helps exaggerate or better identify the problema, and
>>>>>they also suggest starting with an EQ sweep, a term I am probably no
>>>>>too familiar with. So, now that i got that all of the way, what are
>>>>>recommended ways to do this from an accesible standpoint?
>>>>>
>>>>>also, is there a frequency, square or shine wave generator i can use
>>>>>to do the classic hearing test with the monitors i have?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thankful for all the list has done. I didn't find anything related
>>>>>when searching the archives, so this is why I am asking all of this
>>>>>pretty basic stuff.
>>>>
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