[Rwp] ReaAccess no longer available
Scott Chesworth
scottchesworth at gmail.com
Fri Jan 22 14:09:00 EST 2016
Hi Fiore,
My initial reaction to that suggestion was "eek, no, why not have
multiple parameters with cut off points so we can retain full
control", but perhaps that's over-egging the pudding. I guess if
that's how spectrum visual graphs are usually arranged in the big wide
world, that's the model you should go with. It also sounds like it'd
be significantly simpler to develop.
Disclaimer: I might retract that encouragement and attempt to badger
you into multiple parameters once I've had a chance to try out the
plugin :P
Scott
On 1/22/16, Fiore Martin <mister.bloom at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> yes I've kindly been introduced to OSARA already
>
> I installed OSARA and the plug-in seems to work fine.
> The only problem is that, since one of the parameters goes from 20 Hz to
> 20,000 Hz, it can be a bit cumbersome to move along the frequency spectrum.
>
> Changing value with the page up and page down buttons mitigates it a bit
> but there are still a lot of values.
>
> The only thing I can do is to distribute the values logarithmically. In the
> low end the values will be more dense and in the high end more sparse.
> So for example if you press arrow up at 20 Hz it will go to 30Hz, but if
> you press the arrow at 21700 Hz it will jump to 217500 Hz.
> An increment of 10 Hz versus an increment of 500 Hz with the same action.
>
> This is how spectrum visual graphs are normally arranged by the way
>
>
> thanks
> Fiore
>
>
>
> 2016-01-22 15:05 GMT+00:00 Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hey Fiore,
>>
>> I need to renew the domain. Have been meaning to do this for a while,
>> but the schedule is a bit insane here at the moment. I see a few other
>> peeps have hooked you up with OSARA to test with in the meantime
>> though. Once you've installed the D&G keymap, it'll behave very
>> similarly to ReaAccess when it comes to displaying parameters and
>> such.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 1/22/16, Fiore Martin <mister.bloom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Thank you for catching me up guys!
>> >
>> > F.
>> >
>> > 2016-01-22 13:11 GMT+00:00 Oriol Gómez <ogomez.s92 at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Yeah, screw reaacess. :) Osara ftw!
>> >>
>> >> On 1/22/16, Tayeb Meftah <tayeb.meftah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hello
>> >> > i think reaAccess is getting sleepy and wouldn't be used a lot in
>> >> > the
>> >> > few
>> >> > month
>> >> > lot of People is switching to OSARA, writen by NVAccess the company
>> >> > responcible for the NVDA screen reader
>> >> > would you mind trying it out?
>> >> > please note that OSARA plugin would require the SWS reaper extention
>> >> > thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Envoyé de mon iPad
>> >> >
>> >> >> Le 22 janv. 2016 à 12:57, Fiore Martin <mister.bloom at gmail.com> a
>> >> écrit :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anybody know where I can get a copy of ReaAccess for windows ?
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> domain of the website seems to be expired.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> By the way, the reason I need it is to test a plug-in I am working
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> Queen Mary University of London called Accessible Spectrum
>> >> >> Analyser,
>> >> which
>> >> >> sonifies frequency spectra
>> >> >> in order to make them accessible.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> more info and link to the first prototype below and if you'd like
>> >> >> to
>> >> give
>> >> >> some feedback, I am all ears
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thank you
>> >> >> Fiore
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Links for plug-in download:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> VST plugin 32 bit for Windows
>> >> >>
>> >> >> VST plugin 64 bit for Windows
>> >> >>
>> >> >> AU plugin for Mac, drop it in /Library/Audio/Plug-ins/Components
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Usage:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can select the range of frequencies you want to monitor by
>> >> >> setting
>> >> >> selection-start and selection-size parameters.
>> >> >> For example if you'd like to monitor the frequencies from 20Hz to
>> >> >> 1Khz,
>> >> >> you want to set selection start to 20Hz and selection size to
>> >> >> 1880Hz
>> >> >> So once the selection size is set, by moving the selection start
>> >> >> parameter, you can scan the whole spectrum from low frequencies to
>> >> >> high
>> >> >> frequencies.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then to activate the sonification, you want to tweak the threshold
>> >> >> parameter: when any of the frequencies in the selection goes above
>> the
>> >> >> threshold, the plug-in will beep at 440Hz plus one semitone per
>> >> >> db
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> difference between the frequency component and the threshold.
>> >> >> For instance if your audio has one frequency component whose
>> magnitude
>> >> is
>> >> >> -3db and you set your threshold at -2db you will hear an A#, which
>> is
>> >> >> given by 440Hz (A) plus one semitone for the 1 db difference.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> at the moment only the frequency component with the biggest
>> >> >> magnitude
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the selection is taken into account for the sonification
>> >> >>
>> >> >> dry and wet parameters are for volumes of the original audio and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> sonification respectively.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And now some questions if you'd like to answer any of them :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) would you find this plug-in useful ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) would you prefer to have some indication in the sonification of
>> >> >> where
>> >> >> the selection is in the total spectral range. For example I could
>> use
>> >> >> panning
>> >> >> to indicate if the selection and hence the sonified frequency
>> >> >> components
>> >> >> are towards the low end of the spectrum or the high end.
>> >> >> However this information might be redundant since you set the
>> >> >> selection
>> >> >> yourselves and you know already where it is?
>> >> >> Another option could be to use panning to give information about
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> location of the peaking frequency components within the selection.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 3) would you prefer to have the sound of all the frequency
>> >> >> components
>> >> >> passing the threshold in the selection rather than the biggest ?
>> >> >> In this case the sound would be made out of a lot of sine waves
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> different pitch (one per component) and obviously the pitch would
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> longer be linked to the difference with the threshold. I am afraid
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> would turn out to be quite noisy though.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4) how easy/hard is it for you to handle parameters which such a
>> >> >> big
>> >> range
>> >> >> like the selection start going from 20 to 20.000 ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 5) Would you prefer to have a selection-end parameter rather than
>> >> >> selection-size or doesn't really matter ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Fiore
>> >> >>
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