[Rwp] Off-topic: Does Anyone Have Midi Quest by Sound Quest?

Sat Jan 9 05:39:09 EST 2016

Here, here.

On 1/8/2016 8:46 PM, Snowman wrote:
> Jees,  I have to giv the guy credit for giving an honest response.  
> That's more than you would get from a large company, with many times 
> the resources. And, he's probably telling a true story their.  And, 
> one of the points he makes is the most telling one.  We aren't a big 
> enough market to make it anything more than a charitable effort, one 
> which they can't afford to do at this point.
>
> Honestly,I know people love to main stream, because you just have so 
> many groovy, early user experiences to chase, as you play with the 
> latest and greatest thing which you would just love to use, but 
> can't.  Time and again, you find that you can't, and are left out.  
> Very discouraging.  Still, people love to butt their heads against 
> that wall.
> And, there is always the issue of interacting with sighted colleagues 
> over a common format.  So, I undeerstand why people want to be able to 
> use the same apps as their colleagues do.  Very understandable.
> But, I would really like to see blind programmers organize, and focus 
> their heads around designing applications for this sort of thing, 
> which are screen reader friendly from the get go.  Access is in the 
> design, not an afterthought.  .  Some people believe in integration at 
> any cost.  Others believe in separate but equal.  I believe in 
> separate but superior.  There is no bloody reason other than ambition 
> that we can't design our own sound recorders, midi editors, Broadcast 
> platforms, etc etc.  Just think how much we would learn as we did it.
>
> Stop pointing your finger at me.
>
> I'm not a windows programmer, so I would be a beginner, with infinite 
> amounts of stuff to learn before I could program diddly squat.  But, 
> it does seem like a very interesting thing to do. Maybe when I retire.
> .  But, that is sort of what they did with Studio Recorder, isn't it?  
> They couldn't find the thing with all the features they needed, so 
> they built their owhn.  And, I hear it is a nice, responsive little 
> package.
> I would expect that editors that would suit our needs would be a lot 
> simpler than what it takes to satisfy the sighted community. No icon 
> saturation bullshit, no shading, no graphical crap to screw around 
> with.  No sixteen tons of enigmatic preference options.  WE would make 
> the best damned audio editor on the plannet, and then we would charge 
> sighted people extra for us to clamp on some sort of groovy GUI  for 
> their benefit.  Or, just publish an API, and let them have at it.  
> Sounds like a good weekend project.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Off-topic: Does Anyone Have Midi Quest by Sound Quest?
>
>
>> Maybe a good candidate for hsc.
>>
>> Or maybe ahk.
>>
>> Now who's gonna step up and do the work, and who's gonna pay for it?
>> That's the billion dollar digital question?
>>
>> On 1/8/2016 4:42 AM, Matej Golian wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>> this is the response I got from Midi Quest support:
>>>
>>> "Thanks for your feedback. I should give you a little history to add
>>> to your knowledge.
>>>
>>> Midi Quest has been around a very long time and one of the ways that
>>> the program has survived is that it is still based on some of the
>>> structures from its inception. My understanding is that all of the
>>> text readers do their job by querying controls for their text contents
>>> and turning this into spoken language. The problem is that Windows,
>>> back at that time, provided only a limited number of controls as
>>> resources and beyond that it would simply fail. The number of
>>> available controls was not even close to sufficient to create even a
>>> relatively simple editor. As a result, and I believe this is true of
>>> all major editor/librarians, we were forced to create our own set of
>>> controls which we use to display and control editing of the instrument
>>> parameters. (Also, we found that relying on Windows to displays these
>>> highly control based editors resulted in unacceptable rendering delays
>>> and a very bad user experience. Another reason why we had to abandon
>>> the control based design.)
>>>
>>> At this point, we really can't go back. The graphic layouts are an
>>> integral part of how the information is displayed and if would require
>>> a huge investment in rework in order to present the information in a
>>> way that would support text readers.
>>>
>>> We do our best to track the interests of our customers and potential
>>> customers and the unfortunate truth, from our perspective anyway, is
>>> that we have seen anything close to the level of interest that would
>>> be required to make Midi Quest user friendly to the blind. We are
>>> admittedly a small company and we certainly don't have the resources
>>> to invest in a project like this and find out that we were wrong.
>>> Frankly, we would be out of business."
>>>
>>> I guess there's no hope for us. Still I wonder whether money really is
>>> such a big issue in this case. Sure, Midi Quest with its more than 700
>>> instruments is a pretty big program, but from personal experience I
>>> know that lack of money is often used as an excuse. After all, it's a
>>> lot easier to say that we don't have the resources to do it than to go
>>> and do something about it. Than again this only my perception and I
>>> might be wrong.
>>> Be as it may, it's very unfortunate that there is practically zero
>>> accessibility when it comes to this kind of software.
>>>
>>> All the best
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>>> 2016-01-04 15:05 GMT+01:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
>>>> Hi, thanks for your response.
>>>> I think we're in a similar situation. On Windows I can audition,
>>>> delete, clear and perhaps ecen copy and paste the patches of my synth,
>>>> but so far I haven't found out how to edit them. Hope it's possible.
>>>> If not, I guess it makes no difference whether one's running Mac or
>>>> Windows.
>>>> Thanks again
>>>> Matej
>>>>
>>>> 2016-01-04 14:51 GMT+01:00, Delaunay Christophe
>>>> <christophe.delaunay at technicolor.com>:
>>>>> Hi Matej and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried its mac OS version on my mac but could not use it with VO.
>>>>> Therefore, I am still desperately looking for a midi librarian to 
>>>>> handle
>>>>> my
>>>>> hardware devices. Could a good reaper plugin do such a job?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day and happy new year. ChD
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Matej
>>>>> Golian
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 2:27 PM
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Rwp] Off-topic: Does Anyone Have Midi Quest by Sound Quest?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for this off-topic question, but I can't think of a better 
>>>>> place
>>>>> to ask it.
>>>>> Does anyone know whether the program Midi Quest developed by Sound
>>>>> Quest is accessible?
>>>>> I'm testing it right now and so far it's pretty good (thanks to 
>>>>> NVDA's
>>>>> screen review). Has anyone had any experience with this program?
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>> Matej
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