[Rwp] some thoughts for the keymap development and things and stuff

Chris Smart csmart8 at cogeco.ca
Mon Feb 29 14:05:26 EST 2016 

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Chris


At 05:59 AM 2/28/2016, you wrote:
>Chicken nugget? Is that a typo? What on earth is Chicken Nugget??
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 28 Feb 2016, at 00:37, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I use win and shift as a modifier. Chicken Nugget uses control 
> win a lot so I already avoided that, even though I'm running Windows 8.1,
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >> On 27/02/2016 23:12, Chris Belle wrote:
> >> Nice ones.
> >>
> >> I'll share my short cuts with any one who wants them, only have 
> a few now, but the ones that might be most useful are the 
> consolidated actions for automation with volume and  pan and such,
> >> for the alt down and up arrows and such,
> >> doing them 20 times in one go for a 1 db up or down,
> >> it's not hard to make these actions, but that dialogue isn't the 
> most intuitive thing in the world 'smile'.
> >> Also my fx up and down in a chain, those are very handy.
> >> But Patrick warned me about the using the win key for windows 10,
> >> so I should probably re-map those to other keys.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2/27/2016 4:51 PM, onlineeagle via RWP wrote:
> >>> Ok, here are my actions which I think are really useful, and 
> will be useful for others too.
> >>> The first action is "Item: remove selected area of items." I've 
> assigned this to control backspace. Alt delete would also work well.
> >>> Second action: "Copy selected area of items." I've mapped that 
> to control alt C.
> >>> Third is: "Cut selected area of items." Control alt X is taken 
> with the Media Explorer, so I've gone for Control Alt Backspace.
> >>> These three actions are really useful for me. Basically, you 
> can use Reaper like Sonar, making a time selection and coppying, 
> cutting and deleting. I love splitting items, but sometimes it's 
> good to be able to select multiple tracks and use alt left left and 
> right bracket to select and then delete, cut or copy the content.
> >>> The other two actions I use all the time are: "Item: fade items 
> into cursor." I've assigned this to control alt shift I. "Item, 
> fade items out from cursor" is assigned to control alt shift O.
> >>> They are the main ones. I mentioned my item pitch items before, 
> but these are less essential for most users.
> >>> Control alt shift 9 to pitch item down an octave, an control 
> alt shift 0 to pitch up an octave. Control alt shift dash to reset 
> item pitch. Hope these help. They certainly help me.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 14:58, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, aI answered my own question, it takes two presses of the 
> enter key, but in the case of an fx send if you arrow up to the top 
> of the combo box and enter twice at the heading part, you don't 
> insert anything.
> >>>> This is good enough.
> >>>> Nice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/27/2016 7:20 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> >>>>> I guess i was taking expanding the combo box as one thing, 
> and the populating as another.
> >>>>> two different points.
> >>>>> Anyway, it's all good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/27/2016 6:48 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> >>>>>> FYI, it wasn't Jamie that bamboozled you with ambiguity.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jamie asked: does alt+downArrow help to expand the combo box?
> >>>>>> Scott said: just tested expanding with Alt+Down arrow here, and it
> >>>>>> does seem to work as expected nowadays.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm not sure where the ambiguity is in the context of what was being
> >>>>>> discussed, but glad it worked for you (two out of three times anyway).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2/27/16, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Ok, I did read those, but I don't remember you  saying it 
> specifically
> >>>>>>> didn't populate if you did nothing.
> >>>>>>> Making a general statement like the combo box expands properly
> >>>>>>>   doesn't
> >>>>>>> give specific information so I had no idea if you meant it didn't
> >>>>>>> populate automatically anymore
> >>>>>>> Ok, in context, it might have been infered,
> >>>>>>> It was rather ambiguous 'smile'.
> >>>>>>> Anyway, if this is what you mean, then thank you kindly I 
> am informed now.
> >>>>>>> Also one of my bad habbits is
> >>>>>>> to read messages from the bottom,
> >>>>>>> I had a filter with messages going from Osara and then the 
> reaper list
> >>>>>>> to different folders,
> >>>>>>> but they are sort of getting mixed up and I haven't fixed it yet, so
> >>>>>>> I've been going back and forth between two mail folders
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2/27/2016 3:30 AM, James Teh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Think you missed a message. Can't imagine why on this list. Haha.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anyway, the option we were discussing doesn't help... but 
> there's no need
> >>>>>>>> because the combo box expands properly in recent versions 
> of REAPER. So,
> >>>>>>>> press alt+downArrow, select what you want without any rush and press
> >>>>>>>> enter. Done, problem solved.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 5:51 PM, Chris Belle 
> <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yeh, I'll try and find the action that makes it not 
> populate if you stand
> >>>>>>>>> still.
> >>>>>>>>> That's the part that drives me nuts.
> >>>>>>>>> If anyone figures out where that setting resides, please holler.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 5:41 PM, James Teh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> The improvements coming in the next version of REAPER 
> don't change the
> >>>>>>>>>> way you deal with outputs in any way. That's already 
> accessible; it's
> >>>>>>>>>> just a combo box. I'm guessing the issue is that it 
> commits the change
> >>>>>>>>>> after a short delay even if you just happened to pause and haven't
> >>>>>>>>>> finished selecting yet? If so, I wonder if disabling the pref for
> >>>>>>>>>> committing changes automatically after delay (can't 
> remember the exact
> >>>>>>>>>> name offhand) would help. Also, does alt+downArrow help 
> to expand the
> >>>>>>>>>> combo box first? I'll have to check that when in front of REAPER.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Output selection can't really be in the track context menu because
> >>>>>>>>>> unlike input selection, it relates to routing. By default, REAPER
> >>>>>>>>>> outputs to the master. In contrast, in Sonar, you have 
> to select an
> >>>>>>>>>> output (or accept the default). That automatic master 
> track/bus doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>> exist in quite the same way AFAIK.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Regarding multi-press, one other possibility worth 
> noting is that we
> >>>>>>>>>> could have certain actions that open context menus for 
> choice. As long
> >>>>>>>>>> as each menu item starts with a different letter, that 
> means just two
> >>>>>>>>>> keystrokes for anything in that menu. This trick also 
> means you don't
> >>>>>>>>>> have to memorise the second keystroke; you can use the 
> arrows if you
> >>>>>>>>>> forget it. Just something else to consider when thinking 
> about lesser
> >>>>>>>>>> used (but still useful) actions we might want in the 
> default map. THIS
> >>>>>>>>>> isn't a 1 minute coding job, but it's not too bad if it 
> offers a serious
> >>>>>>>>>> advantage.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 27 Feb 2016, at 8:59 AM, Scott Chesworth 
> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Multi-press with OSARA can and has been done, but isn't 
> trivial, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> given that Jamie is already over budget on the amount 
> of hours that've
> >>>>>>>>>>> been devoted to development, it'll be unlikely that the 
> system you're
> >>>>>>>>>>> describing will be part of OSARA. That's not to say a flat no to
> >>>>>>>>>>> everything multi-press. You know the drill, submit 
> examples to GitHub
> >>>>>>>>>>> and he'll take them on a case by case basis. Similarly, 
> the focus of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jamie's dialog with Cockos themselves has to be on 
> changes that will
> >>>>>>>>>>> improve accessibility for all users, rather than things that will
> >>>>>>>>>>> extend possibilities specifically for power users, 
> tempting as it is.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jamie has already gotten them to add some new API 
> functionality and
> >>>>>>>>>>> spent some hours fighting with his own code to get 
> around one of our
> >>>>>>>>>>> most lamented limitations, so it's already a dialog that's baring
> >>>>>>>>>>> fruit. The result will be with you soon.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> For what it's worth, I believe that you're right about 
> sighted power
> >>>>>>>>>>> users making use of this if it were tied in with screen 
> sets. I'd say
> >>>>>>>>>>> it's fairly likely to get some traction on the forum, but for the
> >>>>>>>>>>> reasons above, it's not something I'll encourage Jamie 
> to take direct
> >>>>>>>>>>> to Cockos at this point without a concrete design that would be
> >>>>>>>>>>> massively beneficial to all OSARA users, particularly 
> those who are
> >>>>>>>>>>> just making the switch to Reaper. There's nothing to 
> stop you from
> >>>>>>>>>>> asking him instead of course, but I'll eat a print out 
> of my Reaper
> >>>>>>>>>>> license if he sees it as high priority. There are rough 
> edges that
> >>>>>>>>>>> need to be rounded off with Reaper's accessibility, and IMO, his
> >>>>>>>>>>> priority should be helping them fix existing 
> bugs/limitations, as well
> >>>>>>>>>>> as a side salad of helping the Cockos development team 
> understand more
> >>>>>>>>>>> about how the stuff they're implementing actually 
> affects users, hence
> >>>>>>>>>>> future-proofing our access to Reaper.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to be a stick in the mud. There's just not enough 
> money in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> pot to have His Geniusness coding indefinitely, so some 
> judiciousness
> >>>>>>>>>>> is required.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My focus right now is on trying to come up with a concept that'd
> >>>>>>>>>>> neaten up the mappings that come bundled with OSARA, 
> because almost
> >>>>>>>>>>> everyone will be using those from day 1. If anyone has 
> a system in
> >>>>>>>>>>> mind that follows a clearer logic and uses less keys 
> than what we're
> >>>>>>>>>>> currently bundling, I'm all ears. I have a few ideas 
> that I'm fleshing
> >>>>>>>>>>> out here at the moment, but none of them feel like a 
> game-changer yet,
> >>>>>>>>>>> so I'm eager for community input from a wide range of 
> users. For now,
> >>>>>>>>>>> keep this on RWP rather than GitHub so the most amount 
> of people can
> >>>>>>>>>>> read and contribute.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the last paragraph is in no way a diss on the 
> effort that Derek
> >>>>>>>>>>> and Gianluca have put in to the D&G key map. I use it 
> every day, dig
> >>>>>>>>>>> most of it, and was quietly amazed at what Gianluca cooked up for
> >>>>>>>>>>> editing MIDI in particular. All I'm saying is that I 
> think we've stuck
> >>>>>>>>>>> with the ReaAccess similarity because power users were familiar,
> >>>>>>>>>>> rather than sticking with it because it was a logical, 
> extendable map.
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm keen to have a less steep learning curve for 
> newbies, even if it
> >>>>>>>>>>> means attempting to reprogram my own rusty old tin box 
> of a brain and
> >>>>>>>>>>> consequently making me less productive for a few weeks while the
> >>>>>>>>>>> muscle memory develops.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/16, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it would simplify things, though I think 
> it is a crucial
> >>>>>>>>>>>> one, is allowing us to get more milage out of the 
> limited number of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> keys
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we have available.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The thing is that this wouldn't be any extra work for 
> Derek, Jamie,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Genluka or anyone, just provide users with the ability to create
> >>>>>>>>>>>> multiple keyboard profiles and they can do with it as they will.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's say for example I am dealing with a project that 
> is very send
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> effects chain heavy. SWS provides actions to do such 
> and such to this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that numbered send and this and that numbered slot in 
> the effects
> >>>>>>>>>>>> chain.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well I would need to do a lot of this for this 
> particular type of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> project, but then let's say I do other work that 
> requires a lot of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> working with regions and markers. With keyboard sets, 
> I could have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> template for one type of project, devoting my number 
> row to sends, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> template that's more navigation focussed, where the 
> number row is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> used
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for markers and regions etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the only other two ways I can think of to get round 
> this problem are
> >>>>>>>>>>>> either for Jamie to implement user-defined multi-press 
> key-mapping in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the same way ReaEar does, though ReaEar's implementation isn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> flaweless, or for us to just keep going til e run out 
> of keys and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>> people just have to winnow out what they personally 
> don't use for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> themselves, keeping only the most used key-bindings.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The advantage of Reaper implementing it instead of 
> Jamie is that it'd
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> less work for him and sighted people would benefit 
> too. Lots do make
> >>>>>>>>>>>> heavy use of the shortcut keys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/02/2016 20:45, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Justin, and anyone else who's interested in a 
> multi-layer key
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> map
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or keyboard sets,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I might as well say that as things stand I'm not a fan of this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> concept, because I've never seen it implemented in 
> such a way that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't end up being just as confusing as the 
> sprawling mappings it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was intended to simplify. That said, if anyone shoots 
> over fleshed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of precisely how this would simplify things, 
> I'd gladly eat
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my words, and can currently make sure it'll get seen by Cockos.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> give us at least a chance of getting the feature without the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> drudgery
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of voting on requests etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/16, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sighted people have access to different screensets, which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> presumably
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow them to use Reaper in multiple visual 
> configurations. what we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really need are keyboard sets, which would allow 
> multiple shortcut
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> key
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bindings for different scenarioes. We could start a 
> thread on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature requests forum asking for it, pointing out 
> the benefits to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted people and supporting one another in the request,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/02/2016 18:42, Chris Belle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeh, it's funny about that stuff, and what we get used to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm kind of just the opposite on the IPad,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I'd really want a bluetooth keyboard, but 
> with the short
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time I've spent on iOS,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've become quite comfortable flipping and swiping 
> my way around
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typing on a virtual keyboard.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't want to write
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my memoirs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it 'grin', but hey, for modest data entry it's not so bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But getting back to reaper,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if there's a way to make it distinguish 
> between different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards as separate devices.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if it could, then that's a big possibility for 
> a whole other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of action bindings.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 10:30 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have an old Dell laptop from 2009 that I have 
> upgraded a bit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a core2 duo T9600. I stuck 8GB of ram, a 240GB SSD and an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11AC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless card in it, all of which I had lying 
> around, believe it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, and it runs pretty good as a casual stuff 
> machine. It even
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> firewire controller if I need that. That one has a virtual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numpad,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but my main laptop doesn't.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that I've been primarily using laptops or 
> Mac desktops for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past few years, it's kind of strange to see a full desktop
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm all like "Oh, right... that extra bunch of 
> keys over there...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot about those..."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 11:14 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, I'm the neanderthal here, I just insist on an old style
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even when using a laptop, I found out long time 
> ago it was just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a pain to deal with the limitations of not 
> having those extra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I have a couple of USB numeric key pad thingies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which are a good compromise when I just can't haul around a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 8:20 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. No numpad either, so I have mapped a bunch 
> of the most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numpad things I use to other keys that would 
> probably not make
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to anyone but me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 8:59 AM, Juan Pablo Bello wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking we need a better way to 
> structure things.. on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keymaps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THere is just no way I am ever going to be able 
> to use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numeric
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keypad on this laptop, because it just does not 
> even have an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulation
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> built in. Its just unacceptable, but that is 
> theway it came I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not alone on that department. Or, I would 
> just have to buy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use a separate keyboard..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, nice going with the portable installs, I 
> think that is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary since you are able to create and 
> automate reaper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its better to have just created a script and 
> automate reaper
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your audiod evices ETC when you first launch 
> it... ETC because
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several installs of the program I think is a 
> bit convoluted at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-02-26 3:22 GMT-05:00, Patrick Perdue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just so you know, control win anything is not viable in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows does a lot more now with, go 
> figure...  the windows
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> key.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 3:19 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's been a lot of talk about how we are 
> running out of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keymap.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed some duplications, first we 
> should weed those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also have some very useful actions that I use all the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depending
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what you do you may not want these but 
> these are some of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one's I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bind.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actions to move fx up and down in the chain.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bind those to control win up and down arrows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I also like the one for turning markers 
> to regions for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exporting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chunks of a long project, like audio books and such.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control win m
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you do that you can set your render 
> options to export
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regions,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think reaper lends itself especially well 
> to long spoken
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio book type projects, and I often have a couple of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or reaper rendering out long jobs while 
> another reaper copy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hence my  reasons for loving portable reaper 
> because each
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same machine,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \with it's own config doing tasks while your 
> doing something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another instance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can of course, instantiate a reaper 
> instance  by just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> path to the executable in the run box with 
> the - newinst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch, but if you copy the folder to a new place with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can have another configuration like for 
> dummy audio for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rendering jobs,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or another sound card for recording, and 
> leave it like that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I have reaper1, reaper2, and so on and so forth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not always that complex, but it's nice to 
> know I can do that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you go, for what it's worth.
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