[Rwp] OSARA revisiting installation issues

[Chris Belle]

That is reasonable enough,
and yes, having the key map extracted to use in a manual manner would be 
useful.
I think that is a good compromise.


On 2/23/2016 10:47 PM, James Teh wrote:
> The only time the installer is ever a problem as far as the dll is 
> concerned is if you previously installed manually. Obviously, the 
> installer can't account for a previous manual installation. If you 
> only ever used the installer (which will be true for anyone who uses 
> it from now on), it's not going to be an issue. I don't think it's 
> unreasonable to expect those who did a manual install to clean up 
> after their own manual install. If they had the knowledge to do the 
> manual install in the first place, they should have the knowledge to 
> clean it up.
>
> Having two distributions creates multiple problems, not least being 
> confusion about which one to use. It's also redundant and means there 
> is yet another piece of the puzzle when trying to track down issues.
>
> The only unanswered issue, then, is the ability to merge key maps. I 
> could probably get around that by having the installer extract the 
> OSARA key map to the REAPER key maps directory so you can import it 
> manually if you wish.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 24/02/2016 2:39 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>> Well, if it's still for consideration at all, I vote to have a manual 
>> zip file method available for manual installs,
>> like the JSonar project did,
>> this makes it easier to update rather than replace keymaps,
>> and the process of cleaning up and putting the dll in a place rather 
>> than have an install do it makes it less likely
>> to mess up and get it in two places.
>> Unless there are issues I'm not aware of,
>> for future growth, things like registry entries, or other dlls
>> etc, then this seems so simple and straight forward to me.
>> I only have a few custom actions now, and I can work around this, 
>> exporting my
>> actions, and re-importing them,
>> but when the list grows it will get to be a longer process.
>> and having only the options to leave it alone or replace it totally 
>> is not as good as being able to just import the keymap old school yes 
>> I am aware there can be conflicts,
>> but this gives me the maximum flexibility to keep my actions and get 
>> the new ones with out having to play ring around with files
>> and such.
>> Thank you for all your hard work,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/23/2016 2:46 PM, James Teh wrote:
>>> My care factor is 0 for the following reasons:
>>> 1. I specifically posted about removing these files on this list. 
>>> Given OSARA's pre-release status (which I've been very clear about), 
>>> I'd expect users to be watching for messages like this before they 
>>> try things.
>>> 2 Anyone who installed OSARA the manual way already declared a 
>>> certain degree of tech saviness and willingness to play with such 
>>> things.
>>> 3. In the readme, I previously documented that users should copy to 
>>> userPlugins.
>>>
>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>
>>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 4:11 AM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Jamie?
>>>> Since you went to the trouble of making an install and also fixing 
>>>> up a portable support,
>>>> we have a possible snag.
>>>> Normally we always just dumped the osara plug in to the plugins dir.
>>>> Now you changed that to
>>>> UserPlugins
>>>> but what happens is that if the user doesn't delete the original 
>>>> osara plug out of the plugins dir, then it takes authority and the 
>>>> new installed plug doesn't work.
>>>> So do we fix it so this doesn't happen, or just warnn everyone to 
>>>> make sure to clean up before running the install?
>>>> because I can see this tripping up newbies big time.
>>>> Maybe not, because someone running a portable install will probably 
>>>> be clued up with paths and such, but just saying for the record, so 
>>>> we don't end up with an old plug put in the normal manner stsopping 
>>>> the show.
>>>> What you think?
>>>>
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