[Rwp] Arming track, and track view issue resolved: You're not gonna believe this!

Juan Pablo Bello juanpisjaws at gmail.com
Fri Feb 19 00:28:59 EST 2016


read up on this, it interesting that it really does not work for you.
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=86195

2016-02-18 19:53 GMT-05:00, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07 at gmail.com>:
> Not in this case, though.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Arming track, and track view issue resolved: You're not
> gonna believe this!
>
>
>> Ha, sometimes it's the simple things eh!
>>
>> Sent from my portable device. It really doesn't matter which one, does
>> it?
>>
>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 10:25, onlineeagle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ai assume this isn't your issue Chris, but I once had a similar problem.
>>>
>>> Midi values were being sent to my DAW, and I was utterly confused, until
>>>
>>> I eventually realised that there was a book that had fallen on to some of
>>>
>>> the keys of my keyboard, thus triggering midi.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 18 Feb 2016, at 01:10, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep, used a couple of surfaces here too with no issues, an MCU and an
>>>> Alphatrack. I find it kinda unlikely that a surface that has been
>>>> specifically implemented would be this buggy without anyone raising
>>>> hell by now, but hey, anything's possible with Reaper. Keep us posted
>>>> Chris if you work with the other Chris and end up solving it, it'd be
>>>> interesting to know what's up.
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/16, onlineeagle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> Interesting, I use two standard midi keyboard controlers, plus a
>>>>> BCF2000,
>>>>> and they all work fine, so it must just be something to do with the
>>>>> fadeport. But you can just plug any control surface or keyboard in and
>>>>>
>>>>> have
>>>>> it work with Reaper. This is one of the main reasons I moved from
>>>>> Protools
>>>>> to Reaper. You can use any control surface, and even control plugins
>>>>> with
>>>>> it, whereas with ProTools you had to spend thousands of pounds to get
>>>>> a
>>>>> control surface that allowed you to control plugins in ProTools.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Feb 2016, at 02:40, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>>> <clgilland07 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mission accomplished.  I now am up and reaping!  I'm a little
>>>>>> frustrated
>>>>>> though, but not because of another problem.  More, because of what
>>>>>> caused!
>>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, here's the deal.  Upon closer investigation off list with another
>>>>>>
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> member, we went through things over a voice chat.  this way, he could
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> my speech and hear exactly what it was doing.  Sure enough, this was
>>>>>> nothing at all I was doing wrong.  There really indeed was! something
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> very weird going on.  Not only could I not arm the track, but even
>>>>>> worse,
>>>>>> we had a few things going on here, and I'd like to briefly outline
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> here, so that if someone else runs into this, they won't spend 2 and
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> half days like I did trying to get things up and working.  LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So first off, back before yesterday, when I first started trying out
>>>>>> Reaper last summer when I bought the thing, I think it was, I started
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> using Rea Access.  Now, for those of you newbies like Brandon, or
>>>>>> Beth,
>>>>>> etc who never really had the chance to try Reaper with Rea Access, let
>>>>>>
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> say this.  You all're at an advantage actually.  You all are starting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> learning Osara, which is up to date, and what now is being actively
>>>>>> developed.  Rea Access, as I understand it, is pretty much dead.  The
>>>>>> problem is, if you're migrating over from Rea Access, then you're
>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>> have a heck of a time with some things not working as you may expect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> wish I had the money to get into the next Cavicast on Osara, but I
>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, so first off, I was trying to insert a new track into my
>>>>>> Reaper
>>>>>> project with ctrl+T.  It used to gbe with Rea Access, this worked.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> still works, but it's now a little different.  Now, this is bound to
>>>>>> insert and name track, not just insert new track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what was happening initially was, I was hitting ctrl+T, then
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> like Rea Access, that it just popped a track into the project.  Bam!
>>>>>> Done!  Not quite though.  I didn't realize that after I hit ctrl+T,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> doesn't actually seem to be adding the track until I type a name for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> track, then hit enter.  This is awesome, as I can now kill 2 birds
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> one stone.  Before, I had to hit ctrl+T, then focus the track, and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> hit F2 to rename it, followed by the enter key to accept.  Now, I can
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it all in one step.  Go Osara!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The second issue was that damned Faderport control surface was getting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the way.  Yeah, I got it enabled, and yeah, I did what Scott said by
>>>>>> selecting the in and out ports, and by doing that, oh sure.  I got
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> thing working all right.  I got it working almost too! good!  The
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> is, the Faderport actually works as a midi device, in and of itself.
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> other words, everything you do on the unit is translated back and
>>>>>> forth as
>>>>>> midi event messages.  I think in some DAWS, you actually configure
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> thing as a HUI device, if that tells ya anything.  My point is, moral
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the story, the stupid thing was sending midi events back and forth in
>>>>>> realtime and was really really confusing both Reaper, and even more
>>>>>> so,
>>>>>> Osara.  I have my suspitions what it actually was doing, but I can't
>>>>>> totally prove it, so I won't bore you with those details, as this
>>>>>> already
>>>>>> is getting pretty long winded.  Basically though, when I would try to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> and down arrow to move track by track, the Faderport was interfering.
>>>>>> Basically, it kept sending track volume messages back into Reaper.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> figured this out by looking in the menu bar under Edit.  We then
>>>>>> found
>>>>>> under undo, that it kept saying undo track volume change.  Finally,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> guy helping me was like, huh? What the!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> End of the story is, we unplugged the faderport, and disabled it
>>>>>> under
>>>>>> control surfaces.  We then restarted Reaper, and guess what!  Boom!
>>>>>> Thinks started working totally as they should.  My up and down arrows
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> let me go track by track, as they should, etc.  So words to live by.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> faderport is evil!  I can't speak for other surfaces, but I'm with
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> Bell on this.  Seems like, at least this! surface, almost gives more
>>>>>> head
>>>>>> ache than it's worth!  I'll use it in PT, but, never again in Reaper!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
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