[Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins

Sun Feb 14 06:15:37 EST 2016

But they are a samples company all you really need to hear is what they sound like. What exactly do you need a demo of?
> On Feb 13, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
> 
> Imperfect Samples is a good example.
> 
> Jes
> 
> Sent from a nifty device
> 
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2016, at 4:48 PM, "theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com" <theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com> wrote:
>> 
>> its rare that a plug in maker doesn’t offer trials but i have never not ben able to work something out just by asking in the two rare cases i came across.
>>> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a few popular plugin developers take a while to release
>>> trial versions, but can't say I remember coming across many (if any)
>>> that don't allow any kind of evaluation. Who does this?
>>> 
>>> Also, in addition to what Oreo said, I've only ever had an extended
>>> debate about refunds due to inaccessibility with one company. *cough*
>>> Toontrack *cough*.
>>> 
>>>> On 2/13/16, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>> Another thing that is rather disconcerting is that a lot of companies now
>>>> won't let you try their plug-ins. Instead they will just let you hear demos
>>>> of what the plug-ins can do. Therefore, you won't know how accessible a
>>>> plug-in is until you purchase it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a sad deal, but that's how it goes sometimes.
>>>>> We got all excited about development for their plugs   that shipped with
>>>>> soundforge, but it rather died on the vine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/12/2016 8:41 PM, theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com wrote:
>>>>>> Actually i reached out to that very person when i had the issue with
>>>>>> Ozone 7 and they are the one that explained to me that they changed the
>>>>>> installer and would be using it going forward.  I asked a while back if
>>>>>> anything new would be going on in the accessibility testing front and was
>>>>>> told they were restructuring things over there. What that means is
>>>>>> anyone’s guess.
>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or, that what Jessua is expressing is the new company posture.  You said
>>>>>>> it fizzled and died.  I suppose, it died for a reason.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:09 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With all due respect to Jeshua, that's BS.
>>>>>>>> Not only did iZotope commit to making a lot of their things accessible
>>>>>>>> several years ago, meaning the actual UI, but they even set up a
>>>>>>>> separate accessibility testing group. I was part of it for awhile. It
>>>>>>>> fizzled and died, but for awhile there, they were entirely on our side
>>>>>>>> and working to make things better.  At the time, Ted Terry was an
>>>>>>>> important contact. I don't know if he is still with iZotope, but it
>>>>>>>> might be worth dropping his name into the conversation. Large parts of
>>>>>>>> Ozone 7 are accessible to us thanks to this initial work, although
>>>>>>>> efforts seemed to have stalled more recently.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm guessing Jeshua is just new to the company so has no idea this all
>>>>>>>> took place.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At 04:27 AM 2/11/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here is the somewhat terse response I received from the customer care
>>>>>>>>> team. If anyone with remote interest in any of Izotope's plug-ins
>>>>>>>>> could contact the team to demonstrate the strength of interest, that
>>>>>>>>> would be great.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting us!
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately our software is not compatible with Screen reading
>>>>>>>>> software. I apologize for the inconvenience!
>>>>>>>>> I will be happy to pass your need for screen reading software support
>>>>>>>>> to our Product Management team for their consideration in future
>>>>>>>>> updates to our product line.
>>>>>>>>> If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to let me
>>>>>>>>> know. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> Jeshua
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/02/2016 21:10, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> There is an NVDA addon that gives OCR based on the tesseract engine,
>>>>>>>>>> which isn't really that great for accuracy, but can sometimes get you
>>>>>>>>>> by if you can't see what you're looking for using object review or
>>>>>>>>>> screen review modes.
>>>>>>>>>> I can use it to select and mute and unmute channels on my Presonus
>>>>>>>>>> StudioLive VSL software, which is all pretty much inaccessible,
>>>>>>>>>> though it's not really efficient to do so.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/10/2016 1:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried Jaws's OCR feature on the installer screens? Doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>> have an oCR feature of some kind as well? Just an idea. I'm going to
>>>>>>>>>>> grab the free delay plugin today.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> At 04:14 AM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you using Isotope software, how do you install and
>>>>>>>>>>>> authorise it without sighted assistance, or isn't it possible?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded one of their free plug-ins yesterday and the installer
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't speak at all and the authorisation dialogue, although I
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>> get it to come up by triggering the custom UI in Reaper's effects
>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue, also seemed inaccessible. I couldn't enter my sereal
>>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>>> at all or any of the other details it wanted.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
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