[Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins

Jes jessmith at samobile.net
Sat Feb 13 17:38:47 EST 2016 

Imperfect Samples is a good example.

Jes

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> On Feb 13, 2016, at 4:48 PM, "theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com" <theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com> wrote:
> 
> its rare that a plug in maker doesn’t offer trials but i have never not ben able to work something out just by asking in the two rare cases i came across.
>> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen a few popular plugin developers take a while to release
>> trial versions, but can't say I remember coming across many (if any)
>> that don't allow any kind of evaluation. Who does this?
>> 
>> Also, in addition to what Oreo said, I've only ever had an extended
>> debate about refunds due to inaccessibility with one company. *cough*
>> Toontrack *cough*.
>> 
>>> On 2/13/16, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>> Another thing that is rather disconcerting is that a lot of companies now
>>> won't let you try their plug-ins. Instead they will just let you hear demos
>>> of what the plug-ins can do. Therefore, you won't know how accessible a
>>> plug-in is until you purchase it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's a sad deal, but that's how it goes sometimes.
>>>> We got all excited about development for their plugs   that shipped with
>>>> soundforge, but it rather died on the vine.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/12/2016 8:41 PM, theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com wrote:
>>>>> Actually i reached out to that very person when i had the issue with
>>>>> Ozone 7 and they are the one that explained to me that they changed the
>>>>> installer and would be using it going forward.  I asked a while back if
>>>>> anything new would be going on in the accessibility testing front and was
>>>>> told they were restructuring things over there. What that means is
>>>>> anyone’s guess.
>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or, that what Jessua is expressing is the new company posture.  You said
>>>>>> it fizzled and died.  I suppose, it died for a reason.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:09 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With all due respect to Jeshua, that's BS.
>>>>>>> Not only did iZotope commit to making a lot of their things accessible
>>>>>>> several years ago, meaning the actual UI, but they even set up a
>>>>>>> separate accessibility testing group. I was part of it for awhile. It
>>>>>>> fizzled and died, but for awhile there, they were entirely on our side
>>>>>>> and working to make things better.  At the time, Ted Terry was an
>>>>>>> important contact. I don't know if he is still with iZotope, but it
>>>>>>> might be worth dropping his name into the conversation. Large parts of
>>>>>>> Ozone 7 are accessible to us thanks to this initial work, although
>>>>>>> efforts seemed to have stalled more recently.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm guessing Jeshua is just new to the company so has no idea this all
>>>>>>> took place.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At 04:27 AM 2/11/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is the somewhat terse response I received from the customer care
>>>>>>>> team. If anyone with remote interest in any of Izotope's plug-ins
>>>>>>>> could contact the team to demonstrate the strength of interest, that
>>>>>>>> would be great.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting us!
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately our software is not compatible with Screen reading
>>>>>>>> software. I apologize for the inconvenience!
>>>>>>>> I will be happy to pass your need for screen reading software support
>>>>>>>> to our Product Management team for their consideration in future
>>>>>>>> updates to our product line.
>>>>>>>> If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to let me
>>>>>>>> know. Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Jeshua
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 10/02/2016 21:10, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>>> There is an NVDA addon that gives OCR based on the tesseract engine,
>>>>>>>>> which isn't really that great for accuracy, but can sometimes get you
>>>>>>>>> by if you can't see what you're looking for using object review or
>>>>>>>>> screen review modes.
>>>>>>>>> I can use it to select and mute and unmute channels on my Presonus
>>>>>>>>> StudioLive VSL software, which is all pretty much inaccessible,
>>>>>>>>> though it's not really efficient to do so.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/10/2016 1:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried Jaws's OCR feature on the installer screens? Doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>> have an oCR feature of some kind as well? Just an idea. I'm going to
>>>>>>>>>> grab the free delay plugin today.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> At 04:14 AM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For those of you using Isotope software, how do you install and
>>>>>>>>>>> authorise it without sighted assistance, or isn't it possible?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded one of their free plug-ins yesterday and the installer
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't speak at all and the authorisation dialogue, although I
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> get it to come up by triggering the custom UI in Reaper's effects
>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue, also seemed inaccessible. I couldn't enter my sereal
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> at all or any of the other details it wanted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Justin
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