[Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins

Sat Feb 13 16:48:51 EST 2016

its rare that a plug in maker doesn’t offer trials but i have never not ben able to work something out just by asking in the two rare cases i came across.
> On Feb 13, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've seen a few popular plugin developers take a while to release
> trial versions, but can't say I remember coming across many (if any)
> that don't allow any kind of evaluation. Who does this?
> 
> Also, in addition to what Oreo said, I've only ever had an extended
> debate about refunds due to inaccessibility with one company. *cough*
> Toontrack *cough*.
> 
> On 2/13/16, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>> Another thing that is rather disconcerting is that a lot of companies now
>> won't let you try their plug-ins. Instead they will just let you hear demos
>> of what the plug-ins can do. Therefore, you won't know how accessible a
>> plug-in is until you purchase it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's a sad deal, but that's how it goes sometimes.
>>> We got all excited about development for their plugs   that shipped with
>>> soundforge, but it rather died on the vine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/12/2016 8:41 PM, theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com wrote:
>>>> Actually i reached out to that very person when i had the issue with
>>>> Ozone 7 and they are the one that explained to me that they changed the
>>>> installer and would be using it going forward.  I asked a while back if
>>>> anything new would be going on in the accessibility testing front and was
>>>> told they were restructuring things over there. What that means is
>>>> anyone’s guess.
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 9:34 PM, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or, that what Jessua is expressing is the new company posture.  You said
>>>>> it fizzled and died.  I suppose, it died for a reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> With all due respect to Jeshua, that's BS.
>>>>>> Not only did iZotope commit to making a lot of their things accessible
>>>>>> several years ago, meaning the actual UI, but they even set up a
>>>>>> separate accessibility testing group. I was part of it for awhile. It
>>>>>> fizzled and died, but for awhile there, they were entirely on our side
>>>>>> and working to make things better.  At the time, Ted Terry was an
>>>>>> important contact. I don't know if he is still with iZotope, but it
>>>>>> might be worth dropping his name into the conversation. Large parts of
>>>>>> Ozone 7 are accessible to us thanks to this initial work, although
>>>>>> efforts seemed to have stalled more recently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm guessing Jeshua is just new to the company so has no idea this all
>>>>>> took place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 04:27 AM 2/11/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is the somewhat terse response I received from the customer care
>>>>>>> team. If anyone with remote interest in any of Izotope's plug-ins
>>>>>>> could contact the team to demonstrate the strength of interest, that
>>>>>>> would be great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>>>> Thank you for contacting us!
>>>>>>> Unfortunately our software is not compatible with Screen reading
>>>>>>> software. I apologize for the inconvenience!
>>>>>>> I will be happy to pass your need for screen reading software support
>>>>>>> to our Product Management team for their consideration in future
>>>>>>> updates to our product line.
>>>>>>> If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to let me
>>>>>>> know. Thanks!
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Jeshua
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 10/02/2016 21:10, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is an NVDA addon that gives OCR based on the tesseract engine,
>>>>>>>> which isn't really that great for accuracy, but can sometimes get you
>>>>>>>> by if you can't see what you're looking for using object review or
>>>>>>>> screen review modes.
>>>>>>>> I can use it to select and mute and unmute channels on my Presonus
>>>>>>>> StudioLive VSL software, which is all pretty much inaccessible,
>>>>>>>> though it's not really efficient to do so.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/10/2016 1:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Have you tried Jaws's OCR feature on the installer screens? Doesn't
>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>> have an oCR feature of some kind as well? Just an idea. I'm going to
>>>>>>>>> grab the free delay plugin today.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At 04:14 AM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For those of you using Isotope software, how do you install and
>>>>>>>>>> authorise it without sighted assistance, or isn't it possible?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded one of their free plug-ins yesterday and the installer
>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't speak at all and the authorisation dialogue, although I
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> get it to come up by triggering the custom UI in Reaper's effects
>>>>>>>>>> dialogue, also seemed inaccessible. I couldn't enter my sereal
>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>> at all or any of the other details it wanted.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Justin
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