[Rwp] Need to rant, Re: Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins

[theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com]

Because they are installing more than just the VST version. If it was a VST only plug in then a simple dll file could do the trick. 

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
> 
> Mercy, the good oal days of being able to download a simple dll in a zip, extract it to your daw, and boom you're up and running! For a simple dll, authorization file, and a few presets, why does Izotope need such a complicated installer? And why do they have to use this Visual C++ Distributable thing from Microsoft? Someone explain that one!
> 
> Original message:
>> Which plugins have accessible presets? Just wondering, as it might help them identify what constitutes accessibility for us. I got some sighted help to save all the Stutter Edit presets when I was using ProTools on the Mac, but now I'm going to have to ask a sighted person to help again in order to save them for Reaper. All my plugins from a few years back have fully accessible preset libraries, but as you say Scott, they seem to be favouring their own custom preset interfaces more and more. It's frustrating that accessibility was better three years ago than it is now, at least in this regard.
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 10 Feb 2016, at 22:02, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Their presets are accessible out of the box on some plugins, but never
>>> in native formats to each DAW that I've seen. In my experience, once a
>>> developer chooses to move to a custom preset browser, they don't go
>>> back. It's a pain for us, but usually ends up being much less effort
>>> for them. Tbh, iZotope are already miles ahead of the pack in that
>>> some of their custom browsers read, so I dunno how much luck you'll
>>> have persuading them.
> 
>>> All that said, best of luck :)
> 
>>> Scott
> 
>>>> On 2/10/16, onlineeagle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> C'll contact them too. I also am intending on contacting them about their
>>>> presets not being accessible out of the box. Obviously we can jet sighted
>>>> help and save them for access in the future. Does anyone know what's the
>>>> best way for plugin developers to make their presets accessible? Obviously
>>>> there are many that are, including the Reaper stock plugins.
> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>>>> On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:19, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Also, it's worth noting that, although you can get some feedback with the
>>>>> NVDA OCR addon, it doesn't orientate you to what's on the screen. In other
>>>>> words you won't know if you are on the okay, cancel, browse buttons or
>>>>> wherever during the install, even though they show up in the OCR output.
>>>>> We definitely need to contact Isotope about this.
>>>>> Just a suggestion--has anybody tried installing the dll to an external
>>>>> medium and then authorizing that, then transferring the dll to your
>>>>> primary daw?
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> There is an NVDA addon that gives OCR based on the tesseract engine,
>>>>>> which isn't really that great for accuracy, but can sometimes get you by
>>>>>> if you can't see what you're looking for using object review or screen
>>>>>> review modes.
>>>>>> I can use it to select and mute and unmute channels on my Presonus
>>>>>> StudioLive VSL software, which is all pretty much inaccessible, though
>>>>>> it's not really efficient to do so.
> 
>>>>>>> On 2/10/2016 1:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>>> Have you tried Jaws's OCR feature on the installer screens? Doesn't
>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>> have an oCR feature of some kind as well? Just an idea. I'm going to
>>>>>>> grab the free delay plugin today.
> 
>>>>>>> At 04:14 AM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all
> 
>>>>>>>> For those of you using Isotope software, how do you install and
>>>>>>>> authorise it without sighted assistance, or isn't it possible?
> 
>>>>>>>> I downloaded one of their free plug-ins yesterday and the installer
>>>>>>>> wouldn't speak at all and the authorisation dialogue, although I could
>>>>>>>> get it to come up by triggering the custom UI in Reaper's effects
>>>>>>>> dialogue, also seemed inaccessible. I couldn't enter my sereal number
>>>>>>>> at all or any of the other details it wanted.
> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,
> 
>>>>>>>> Justin
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