[Rwp] Need to rant, Re: Slightly OT Isotope Plug-ins

[Jes]

Mercy, the good oal days of being able to download a simple dll in a 
zip, extract it to your daw, and boom you're up and running! For a 
simple dll, authorization file, and a few presets, why does Izotope 
need such a complicated installer? And why do they have to use this 
Visual C++ Distributable thing from Microsoft? Someone explain that one!

Original message:
> Which plugins have accessible presets? Just wondering, as it might help 
> them identify what constitutes accessibility for us. I got some sighted 
> help to save all the Stutter Edit presets when I was using ProTools on 
> the Mac, but now I'm going to have to ask a sighted person to help 
> again in order to save them for Reaper. All my plugins from a few years 
> back have fully accessible preset libraries, but as you say Scott, they 
> seem to be favouring their own custom preset interfaces more and more. 
> It's frustrating that accessibility was better three years ago than it 
> is now, at least in this regard.

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On 10 Feb 2016, at 22:02, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Their presets are accessible out of the box on some plugins, but never
>> in native formats to each DAW that I've seen. In my experience, once a
>> developer chooses to move to a custom preset browser, they don't go
>> back. It's a pain for us, but usually ends up being much less effort
>> for them. Tbh, iZotope are already miles ahead of the pack in that
>> some of their custom browsers read, so I dunno how much luck you'll
>> have persuading them.

>> All that said, best of luck :)

>> Scott

>>> On 2/10/16, onlineeagle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> C'll contact them too. I also am intending on contacting them about their
>>> presets not being accessible out of the box. Obviously we can jet sighted
>>> help and save them for access in the future. Does anyone know what's the
>>> best way for plugin developers to make their presets accessible? Obviously
>>> there are many that are, including the Reaper stock plugins.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>>> On 10 Feb 2016, at 21:19, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:

>>>> Also, it's worth noting that, although you can get some feedback with the
>>>> NVDA OCR addon, it doesn't orientate you to what's on the screen. In other
>>>> words you won't know if you are on the okay, cancel, browse buttons or
>>>> wherever during the install, even though they show up in the OCR output.
>>>> We definitely need to contact Isotope about this.
>>>> Just a suggestion--has anybody tried installing the dll to an external
>>>> medium and then authorizing that, then transferring the dll to your
>>>> primary daw?
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> There is an NVDA addon that gives OCR based on the tesseract engine,
>>>>> which isn't really that great for accuracy, but can sometimes get you by
>>>>> if you can't see what you're looking for using object review or screen
>>>>> review modes.
>>>>> I can use it to select and mute and unmute channels on my Presonus
>>>>> StudioLive VSL software, which is all pretty much inaccessible, though
>>>>> it's not really efficient to do so.

>>>>>> On 2/10/2016 1:43 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>>>>>> Have you tried Jaws's OCR feature on the installer screens? Doesn't
>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>> have an oCR feature of some kind as well? Just an idea. I'm going to
>>>>>> grab the free delay plugin today.

>>>>>> At 04:14 AM 2/10/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all

>>>>>>> For those of you using Isotope software, how do you install and
>>>>>>> authorise it without sighted assistance, or isn't it possible?

>>>>>>> I downloaded one of their free plug-ins yesterday and the installer
>>>>>>> wouldn't speak at all and the authorisation dialogue, although I could
>>>>>>> get it to come up by triggering the custom UI in Reaper's effects
>>>>>>> dialogue, also seemed inaccessible. I couldn't enter my sereal number
>>>>>>> at all or any of the other details it wanted.

>>>>>>> Thanks for any help,

>>>>>>> Justin
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