[Rwp] Recording in stereo with reaper

Tue Feb 2 15:04:19 EST 2016

Thanks guys,  this is all very helpful.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Recording in stereo with reaper

> Hi Jim and Brett,
>
> Assuming you're using the same keymaps as everyone else, then control
> and left or right arrows will always move you to the previous and next
> items respectively, never transients. The confusion surrounding this
> stems from the developer of ReaAccess overwriting or I guess you could
> say repurposing the actions which move to previous and next transients
> and asigning them to items instead. No idea why he chose to do that, I
> didn't notice at the time, and by the time people started asking
> questions about it he'd already vanished in a puff of smoke.
>
> Re automatically splitting at transients, yes, it can be done. Last
> time I used it SWS was handling this functionality, but I have a
> feeling it's something that's native to Reaper 5 nowadays. From what I
> can remember, there's some jiggery-pokery involved in navigating to
> the slider which sets the sensitivity. Can anyone else chime in and be
> more helpful on this?
>
> Working with tracks and items is context sensitive, and tracks take
> priority over items. So, if the last thing you touched was a track,
> then if you were to hit S without your cursor being over an item,
> you'll still get zero splits because Reaper thinks you're working with
> tracks. Yeah, I know, you can't split a track, so the behaviour makes
> no sense. So far as I can tell, this is an area of UX that needs a bit
> of an overhaul, and I'm guessing it's largely going unnoticed because
> no sighties I've ever met use the Reaper TCP entirely from the
> keyboard like we do (even the ones who're shortcut crazy still use the
> mouse to set up initial selections before they start editing). If you
> do have an item selected, but you perform some sort of track
> navigation command between selecting that item and splitting, that's
> one instance where Reaper will again get all context sensitive, assume
> you're working with tracks again and pop a split in every item on
> every track at that point. In Preferences, under editing behaviour,
> there's a checkbox to stop this from happening, but in effect all
> it'll mean is that you hear zero splits more often and don't have to
> undo as much lol.
> So, to tame this behaviour (which I agree sucks btw), we use the
> select current item on current track action or something to that
> effect, which tells Reaper once and for all that we're working on this
> particular item on this track, so don't be splitting anywhere else.
> With OSARA and ReaAccess, that action is bound to Shift+A. So, when in
> doubt, hit Shift+A before you split. If you've already got items
> selected, it won't do any harm, but if you haven't, it'll save your
> bacon.
>
> Sorry it's a bit of a rambly reply, I'm writing during a break in the
> day job without a copy of Reaper for reference. Hope it clears a few
> points up for ya though.
>
> Scott
>
> On 2/2/16, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>> About splitting items...
>> I agree, this is a bit confusing.
>> Aren't there more subtle issues around this?
>> In Gavin's example, if you want to split item 2, you have to move to item 
>> 2
>> with control+rightArrow, then move your cursor further along to the 
>> right,
>> so you are actually positioned inside item 2, and not just at the split
>> point between items 1 and 2.  You need to be inside item 2.
>> The problem I have sometimes had is where reaper splits all items at the
>> cursor position, on all tracks.
>> It's not clear how it decides  to work on all tracks, instead of the one 
>> I
>> have selected.  But, I think I can force it to work on the current track
>> just by doing uyp and down arrow first.
>> So, given all this, when does one need to use the A key to select the 
>> item
>> under the cursor?  That exists, and I presume it is when you are just 
>> moving
>> around the track, such as with the arrow keys, or page up and page down. 
>> In
>> that case, I guess no item is selected, so you would need to do that to
>> cause the item under the cursor to become selected.
>> Key point is that you can not split an item unless that item is actually
>> selected.
>>
>> But, I have seen cases where I had a lot more items than I expected. 
>> And,
>> that problem seems to relate to what reaper calls Transients, which is a
>> transition from a period of silence, to non-silence.  Is there some 
>> option
>> to make reaper automatically split at such points?
>> Likewise, whetehr control+left and right arrow move from one transient to
>> the next, or from one item to another.  I would love to have that cleared
>> up.
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Gavin Grundlingh
>>   To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>   Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:30 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [Rwp] Recording in stereo with reaper
>>
>>
>>   Hi Brett,
>>
>>   First, recording in Stereo. Are you using Osara as your access plug-in 
>> for
>> Reaper? If so, move to the track you wish to record on, press the
>> Applications key, scroll down to Input: Stereo, right arrow, and select 
>> the
>> channels of your sound card you want to record from.
>>
>>   Second, splitting items. I found this one to be a little tricky at 
>> first,
>> but I eventually figured out how it works, so I'll give a step by step
>> example to try and explain it. Again, this assumes you're using Osara for
>> Reaper accessibility.
>>
>>   Let's say I have three items on a track, and I want to split item two 
>> into
>> three more items. I move to item two, and hit S. My track now has four
>> items. I move to item three, then move my edit cursor to where I want to
>> make the next split, and hit S again. My track now has the five items I
>> wanted. If I had merely moved to item three and hit S, I would have heard 
>> "0
>> items added," because you can't split at a point where a split already
>> exists.
>>
>>   Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if this is still unclear.
>>
>>   Regards,
>>
>>   Gavin
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 2/2/2016 8:54, Brett wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     In the past I have used Sonar with Jaws, but since the Jaws scripts
>> haven't been supported in a long time and they are having some issues 
>> with
>> later versions of Jaws, I am trying to make the transition to reaper.
>> Inconsistencies like being only able to make one split then when trying 
>> to
>> split a different item, I am told no items added have frustrated me. Has
>> anyone else seen this issue and know a workaround or what I may be doing
>> wrong. Before trying to make the split, I am making sure the track I want 
>> to
>> make the split on is the last touched track.
>>
>>     Secondly, is it possible to get reaper to record in stereo? If I 
>> connect
>> the line out from my electronic drum kit to the line in on my sound card,
>> Sonar records in stereo, but reaper only records in mono, which isn't 
>> what I
>> want. I have looked in the I/O dialog for the last touched track by 
>> pressing
>> the letter I and it shows that the track is set to two channels, but I am
>> not really sure what I should be looking for? Does any one have any hints 
>> or
>> suggestions for this one?
>>
>>     thanks in advance,
>>     Brett.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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