[Rwp] Recording in stereo with reaper

Tue Feb 2 14:10:24 EST 2016

Hi Jim and Brett,

Assuming you're using the same keymaps as everyone else, then control
and left or right arrows will always move you to the previous and next
items respectively, never transients. The confusion surrounding this
stems from the developer of ReaAccess overwriting or I guess you could
say repurposing the actions which move to previous and next transients
and asigning them to items instead. No idea why he chose to do that, I
didn't notice at the time, and by the time people started asking
questions about it he'd already vanished in a puff of smoke.

Re automatically splitting at transients, yes, it can be done. Last
time I used it SWS was handling this functionality, but I have a
feeling it's something that's native to Reaper 5 nowadays. From what I
can remember, there's some jiggery-pokery involved in navigating to
the slider which sets the sensitivity. Can anyone else chime in and be
more helpful on this?

Working with tracks and items is context sensitive, and tracks take
priority over items. So, if the last thing you touched was a track,
then if you were to hit S without your cursor being over an item,
you'll still get zero splits because Reaper thinks you're working with
tracks. Yeah, I know, you can't split a track, so the behaviour makes
no sense. So far as I can tell, this is an area of UX that needs a bit
of an overhaul, and I'm guessing it's largely going unnoticed because
no sighties I've ever met use the Reaper TCP entirely from the
keyboard like we do (even the ones who're shortcut crazy still use the
mouse to set up initial selections before they start editing). If you
do have an item selected, but you perform some sort of track
navigation command between selecting that item and splitting, that's
one instance where Reaper will again get all context sensitive, assume
you're working with tracks again and pop a split in every item on
every track at that point. In Preferences, under editing behaviour,
there's a checkbox to stop this from happening, but in effect all
it'll mean is that you hear zero splits more often and don't have to
undo as much lol.
So, to tame this behaviour (which I agree sucks btw), we use the
select current item on current track action or something to that
effect, which tells Reaper once and for all that we're working on this
particular item on this track, so don't be splitting anywhere else.
With OSARA and ReaAccess, that action is bound to Shift+A. So, when in
doubt, hit Shift+A before you split. If you've already got items
selected, it won't do any harm, but if you haven't, it'll save your
bacon.

Sorry it's a bit of a rambly reply, I'm writing during a break in the
day job without a copy of Reaper for reference. Hope it clears a few
points up for ya though.

Scott

On 2/2/16, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
> About splitting items...
> I agree, this is a bit confusing.
> Aren't there more subtle issues around this?
> In Gavin's example, if you want to split item 2, you have to move to item 2
> with control+rightArrow, then move your cursor further along to the right,
> so you are actually positioned inside item 2, and not just at the split
> point between items 1 and 2.  You need to be inside item 2.
> The problem I have sometimes had is where reaper splits all items at the
> cursor position, on all tracks.
> It's not clear how it decides  to work on all tracks, instead of the one I
> have selected.  But, I think I can force it to work on the current track
> just by doing uyp and down arrow first.
> So, given all this, when does one need to use the A key to select the item
> under the cursor?  That exists, and I presume it is when you are just moving
> around the track, such as with the arrow keys, or page up and page down.  In
> that case, I guess no item is selected, so you would need to do that to
> cause the item under the cursor to become selected.
> Key point is that you can not split an item unless that item is actually
> selected.
>
> But, I have seen cases where I had a lot more items than I expected.  And,
> that problem seems to relate to what reaper calls Transients, which is a
> transition from a period of silence, to non-silence.  Is there some option
> to make reaper automatically split at such points?
> Likewise, whetehr control+left and right arrow move from one transient to
> the next, or from one item to another.  I would love to have that cleared
> up.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gavin Grundlingh
>   To: Reapers Without Peepers
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:30 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Rwp] Recording in stereo with reaper
>
>
>   Hi Brett,
>
>   First, recording in Stereo. Are you using Osara as your access plug-in for
> Reaper? If so, move to the track you wish to record on, press the
> Applications key, scroll down to Input: Stereo, right arrow, and select the
> channels of your sound card you want to record from.
>
>   Second, splitting items. I found this one to be a little tricky at first,
> but I eventually figured out how it works, so I'll give a step by step
> example to try and explain it. Again, this assumes you're using Osara for
> Reaper accessibility.
>
>   Let's say I have three items on a track, and I want to split item two into
> three more items. I move to item two, and hit S. My track now has four
> items. I move to item three, then move my edit cursor to where I want to
> make the next split, and hit S again. My track now has the five items I
> wanted. If I had merely moved to item three and hit S, I would have heard "0
> items added," because you can't split at a point where a split already
> exists.
>
>   Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if this is still unclear.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Gavin
>
>
>
>   On 2/2/2016 8:54, Brett wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     In the past I have used Sonar with Jaws, but since the Jaws scripts
> haven't been supported in a long time and they are having some issues with
> later versions of Jaws, I am trying to make the transition to reaper.
> Inconsistencies like being only able to make one split then when trying to
> split a different item, I am told no items added have frustrated me. Has
> anyone else seen this issue and know a workaround or what I may be doing
> wrong. Before trying to make the split, I am making sure the track I want to
> make the split on is the last touched track.
>
>     Secondly, is it possible to get reaper to record in stereo? If I connect
> the line out from my electronic drum kit to the line in on my sound card,
> Sonar records in stereo, but reaper only records in mono, which isn't what I
> want. I have looked in the I/O dialog for the last touched track by pressing
> the letter I and it shows that the track is set to two channels, but I am
> not really sure what I should be looking for? Does any one have any hints or
> suggestions for this one?
>
>     thanks in advance,
>     Brett.
>
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