[Rwp] the ongoing experience with windows 10

[Andrew Downie]

Yes, aggressive is the word.  Recently Microsoft launched an automatic 
update on my machine and trashed the key to a speech synthesizer.  
Fortunately the considerate vendor, who had encountered the same issue, 
reset my key count.

I have subsequently changed from their recommended setting of automatic 
to notify before updating.  That gives me a chance to remove keys before 
the update.


Andrew


On 29/04/2016 8:04 AM, Keith Hinton wrote:
> It probably isn't going to help that Windows Ten unlike previous
> versions of Windows will ever be evolving unlike Windows 7, 8, or even
> 8.1. Also Windows update is different in Ten. I've heard it can b very
> aggressive, breaking hardware at a moments notice etc. as it just
> won't control Windows patches anymore. It'll update whatever the heck
> is wishes to update when it wants to, etc. And that might not be a
> good thing. It could well try to mess with your interface boards, etc.
>
> On 4/28/16, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Well, I think I spoke too soon.
>> It's a bit better but still getting little drop-outs with my steinberg ur22
>> even with the chipset update.
>> So will be hesitant to put w10 on my other machines till I figure this out.
>>
>>
>> On 4/28/2016 1:30 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>> Well, I am hear to report that my initial win10 audio issues with asio
>>> not working well are fixed.
>>> and again I learned an important lesson, always religiously check for
>>> driver updates.
>>> But this one wasn't so obvious.
>>> I had initially gone on dell's site and it said my machine wasn't
>>> supported for win10 testing, which means they don't guarantee all
>>> features working.
>>> for attached devices and the like.
>>> Usually for the most part, legacy hardware is supported well by
>>> microsoft on modern operating systems,
>>> at least to a point.
>>> so there were no obvious issues in control pannel device manager, no
>>> devices not found,
>>> or unknown or other devices, you know the usual things.
>>> I had done extensive updating and the USB seemed to work well, but
>>> asio would never allow me to turn down the buffers without giving me
>>> nasty clicks, although wasapi mode worked way better.
>>> Well, I decided to go on dell's site one more time and try to see if
>>> there were any updates.
>>> This machine was upgraded from a w7 install, with win 10 going in over
>>> the top of it, not the way I usually like to do a machine, but I
>>> figured this was the safest way to do it and get speech in places I
>>> needed it,
>>> and I was experimenting anyway.
>>> Plus the image I had burned from the media creation tool didn't work,
>>> it wouldn't boot for some reason, so I ended up doing it this way.
>>> Well, to my surprise, dell scanned my system, and recommended a
>>> chipset upgrade.
>>> and that went in and when I re-booted, I was able to set the asio
>>> buffers down nice and low on my steinberg interface,
>>> and no clicks or pops.
>>> so even us so called experienced techs can get bitten by the old
>>> driver bug,
>>> and sometimes it's not a straight forward path, because often an older
>>> driver or piece of software can work better than a newer one, as many
>>> DAW builders know,
>>> and if something is wrong it will not always be indicated by something
>>> in device manager.
>>> But this chipset upgrade sure made the difference in my old dell
>>> second gen i5 based system,
>>> so even though dell indicates it doesn't support this machine they had
>>> obviously done some work with it because this upgrade wasn't available
>>> for the w7 install when I did it for that OS, but it was available for
>>> the w10 install.
>>> so w10 is working sweetly now, and plus I have the added niceness of
>>> wasapi working well.
>>>
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