[Rwp] the ongoing experience with windows 10

[Nick Giannak III]

Your chipset or your interface, either one could be the issue. I say 
this because my MOTU Audio Express works no different in Windows 10 than 
it did in 7 or 8, asio or otherwise.

Thanks,

Nick


On 4/28/2016 7:02 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
> I don't think so.
> At least not in the high end professional arena,
> because dedicated higher end hardware still benefits from a 
> proprietary system like asio, which is tried and true and can still 
> perform better than any of the low latency modes for MS.
>
> But for garden variety hardware,
> and using your onboard sound card,
> class compliant devices and the like, it's really a nice improvement, 
> because we now have something approaching what the mac has with core 
> audio.
>
> In windows 10 it's a lot better than it was in 7.
>
> So far I have not been able to get wasapi mode to work in anything 
> above 48k.
> but it's pretty slick if you're happy with that and
> for the moment wasapi is working better on the w10 machine than asio is,
> but I think this is down to some chipset thing with the USB which 
> there may be no solution for on this particular machine.
> I bet if I put a thunderbolt or card based interface of some kind in 
> this machine asio would rock and roll.
> I say this because even in foobar2000,
> I get audio glitches with USB, and that's not even low latency, 
> something screwy is goin on.
>
> On 4/28/2016 3:05 PM, Jes wrote:
>> Will Wasapi squash Asio eventually?
>>
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>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net 
>> <mailto:cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I am hear to report that my initial win10 audio issues with 
>>> asio not working well are fixed.
>>> and again I learned an important lesson, always religiously check 
>>> for driver updates.
>>> But this one wasn't so obvious.
>>> I had initially gone on dell's site and it said my machine wasn't 
>>> supported for win10 testing, which means they don't guarantee all 
>>> features working.
>>> for attached devices and the like.
>>> Usually for the most part, legacy hardware is supported well by 
>>> microsoft on modern operating systems,
>>> at least to a point.
>>> so there were no obvious issues in control pannel device manager, no 
>>> devices not found,
>>> or unknown or other devices, you know the usual things.
>>> I had done extensive updating and the USB seemed to work well, but 
>>> asio would never allow me to turn down the buffers without giving me 
>>> nasty clicks, although wasapi mode worked way better.
>>> Well, I decided to go on dell's site one more time and try to see if 
>>> there were any updates.
>>> This machine was upgraded from a w7 install, with win 10 going in 
>>> over the top of it, not the way I usually like to do a machine, but 
>>> I figured this was the safest way to do it and get speech in places 
>>> I needed it,
>>> and I was experimenting anyway.
>>> Plus the image I had burned from the media creation tool didn't 
>>> work, it wouldn't boot for some reason, so I ended up doing it this 
>>> way.
>>> Well, to my surprise, dell scanned my system, and recommended a 
>>> chipset upgrade.
>>> and that went in and when I re-booted, I was able to set the asio 
>>> buffers down nice and low on my steinberg interface,
>>> and no clicks or pops.
>>> so even us so called experienced techs can get bitten by the old 
>>> driver bug,
>>> and sometimes it's not a straight forward path, because often an 
>>> older driver or piece of software can work better than a newer one, 
>>> as many DAW builders know,
>>> and if something is wrong it will not always be indicated by 
>>> something in device manager.
>>> But this chipset upgrade sure made the difference in my old dell 
>>> second gen i5 based system,
>>> so even though dell indicates it doesn't support this machine they 
>>> had obviously done some work with it because this upgrade wasn't 
>>> available for the w7 install when I did it for that OS, but it was 
>>> available for the w10 install.
>>> so w10 is working sweetly now, and plus I have the added niceness of 
>>> wasapi working well.
>>>
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