[Rwp] Midi controllers and VST's

Clement Chou chou.clement at gmail.com
Sun Apr 17 11:12:32 EDT 2016


Tried the v guitar route, didn't seem to have anyone interested in
helping out near me, unfortunately. I'm going to try for the warranty
at the store because, though they haven't cracked open the manual,
they have told me that while noone is specially knowledgeable they
were willing to have a look at it and see what they could do about it,
but weren't guaranteeing any results. lol Roland is my next option,
and if that doesn't work then I'm going to see if I can rent a Godin
guitar and give it a spin... not a bad guitar, from all I've heard,
though I love the ESP LTD I have right now which is great for rock and
worship, the main styles I play.

On 4/17/16, TheOreoMonster <theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com> wrote:
> I wouldn’t renew the warranty with a store that isn’t willing to crack open
> a manual and help you set up a unit personally. Regarding Roland support i
> have called them up numerous times over the years and they had know problems
> helping me learn button layouts and etc so thats not the issue here. In this
> case you do need someone to walk through the process and do it as there is
> no real accessible way to do that yourself really. I would definitely see if
> roland is willing to set it up for you if you can get it to them. Now that
> would be some excellent support on their part. Otherwise like Chris said get
> on the V Guitar forums and see if anyone is local to you and mind helping
> there is a massive Guitar  forum community out there, google should be able
> to direct you to it pretty quickly.
>
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 2:42 AM, Clement Chou <chou.clement at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you actually read the manuals of the system, it's very
>> interesting... because it actually states several times that the GK is
>> not a standard midi pickup. It works on a different system, but either
>> way is a good one. I'm going to go into my local store and renew the
>> warranty that expires in a couple weeks... and I'm going to see if I
>> can talk one of them into looking through it for me while I'm away.
>> Failing that, I'm going to contact the Roland head office in richmond,
>> because this really isn't a good show on their part for not offering
>> good enough tech support... because not everyone has the resources to
>> just look at a video and do exactly what it says. And at the end of
>> the day, it's all preference of course whether you like todeal with
>> plugins or live sound. I play live a lot, so cracking open the DAW and
>> dialing in my sound is just another way that helps my guitar playing,
>> as well. :)
>>
>> On 4/16/16, TheOreoMonster <theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com> wrote:
>>> GK3 is actually a midi pick up as its converting the guitar pitch data
>>> into
>>> midi data for the synth to use. the GK plug is proprietary to roland gear
>>> and others companies that license it however so yeah you can’t just plug
>>> it
>>> straight into a computer.  roland once made a gk3 to USB midi interface
>>> which allowed you to do pretty much what i wanted so i could always grab
>>> one
>>> of those off eBay if i go that route. Bummer about the local store, its
>>> stores like that why i do more shopping online these days lol. If you
>>> can’t
>>> support me what advantage do you have especially if i can avoid paying
>>> sales
>>> tax on line. lol. Fortunately the one major music store around  where ei
>>> am
>>> currently has knowledgeable staff.  The Pod HD may or may not be easier
>>> to
>>> navigate but i still find plug ins easier to deal with no memorization
>>> needed there and like i said sometime si only get to crack the  DAW open
>>> on
>>> the weekends these days.
>>>
>>>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Clement Chou <chou.clement at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Done all that. lol the gr-55 is a great tool, and once I get it
>>>> calibrated it's going to be great... but the GK 3 pickup is not
>>>> actually a midi pickup, so you'll still need something to go through
>>>> to control those soft synthes with. And I went the store route
>>>> already, but unfortunately although the store I have around caries it,
>>>> noone seems to be well-versed in using it. And the pod HD series is
>>>> much easier to maneuver around... for basic tweeking and effects you
>>>> just use knows on the board, don't even need to go through menus.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/16/16, TheOreoMonster <theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com> wrote:
>>>>> When i had my PODX3 Live i used it in that way as an audio interface
>>>>> and
>>>>> etc. The  problem is like the GR55 it requires a lot of memorizing
>>>>> menus
>>>>> and
>>>>> buttons and etc and as someone who had a full time job and wasn’t using
>>>>> them
>>>>> for hours on end every single day the muscle memory for what was where
>>>>> didn’t build up and i spent too much time referring to notes to tweak
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> and not enough time playing. With Amp and effects plug ins on the
>>>>> computer
>>>>> there is nothing to memorize as i can see all the controls laid out in
>>>>> the
>>>>> program and manipulate them as needed. This just worked out to be
>>>>> easier
>>>>> for
>>>>> me. As for playing plugging into a real amp and twisting a few knobs
>>>>> works
>>>>> as well. Nothing against the POD stuff and i love what modern
>>>>> technology
>>>>> has
>>>>> given us but i just didn’t have the time to spend with it as a blind
>>>>> person
>>>>> to master it. As for the midi stuff i don’t use a lot of it but now
>>>>> that
>>>>> i
>>>>> have logic i am considering getting a guitar with a midi pickup again
>>>>> just
>>>>> to control some those soft synths but  more for using it as filler  or
>>>>> background parts in my more rock oriented products. The reason i
>>>>> avoided
>>>>> the
>>>>> GR55 the BG99  and the new Antares ATG1 floor processor is the
>>>>> calibration
>>>>> issue. I didn’t have eyes around to help me set it up either. The best
>>>>> thing
>>>>> i recommend doing in those situations is finding a local music store
>>>>> thats a
>>>>> dealer and buy it from them but ask them to assist in setting it up and
>>>>> etc
>>>>> before you leave the store if you get it from them.  Too late for this
>>>>> situation but something to consider for  future.  In this case contact
>>>>> the
>>>>> local music store and find someone who works there that sells that
>>>>> stuff
>>>>> thats familiar with it and see if they are willing to come out and help
>>>>> you
>>>>> with it or if you can bring it and get some assistance. You may want to
>>>>> sweeten the deal with some cash for their time as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Clement Chou <chou.clement at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yes. The Godin guitars... thought about one of those to go with my
>>>>>> roland, but that would've broken the bank... so here's hoping  I can
>>>>>> get calibration done some time in the near future so I didn't blow
>>>>>> $1000 on a synthe I can't get working right. sigh. In the meantime, I
>>>>>> think renting a midi controller is a good option... but still welcome
>>>>>> to any further thoughts / discussion!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/16/16, Chris Smart <csmart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and, I'm glad to hear the GR55 is usable once you get things
>>>>>>>> calibrated. That's great to know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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