[Rwp] creating custom action chains

Thu Sep 10 18:52:27 EDT 2015

1. Select the envelope you want to remove automation from (e.g. using 
Track: Select next envelope).
2. Make a time selection covering the area you want to remove automation 
from.
3. Track menu -> Envelopes -> Remove envelope points in time selection.
Done.
The real key is step 1. If no envelope is selected, you can't do 
anything with envelope points.

Jamie

On 11/09/2015 7:09 AM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
> Thanks Jamie.
>
> The only way I've ever removed automation is by undoing it but that's not
> very efficient. One work-around would obviously be to record over it with
> parameters at default values,
>
> Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
> via RWP
> Sent: 10 September 2015 15:19
> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>
> I was reading on a forum and apparently other guys are having the same
> problem with latch acting like touch, but it's supposed to be like latch
> writes a straight line when you let go of it, and doesn't follow the curve
> of existing automation.
>
> At any rate, though I've done some bitching about reaper's automation, I am
> happy that we can at some extent over-write existing automation instead of
> having to just start over or blow it all away.
>
> Now how do we get rid of automation or delete it if we want without deleting
> a track?
>
> I saw those things in the track menu with envelopes, but they were always
> disabled?
>
>
> On 9/10/2015 1:01 AM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>> It's latch, not flash.
>>
>> Touch means that automation starts getting recorded when you first
>> adjust (touch) the parameter and stops when you stop touching it. So,
>> once you stop touching it, if there was previously recorded
>> automation, it won't be overwritten.
>> Latch means that automation starts getting recorded when you first
>> touch the parameter and then keeps getting recorded until you stop the
>> transport. So, if there was previously recorded automation after you
>> stopped touching the parameter, it will be overwritten.
>> Write means that automation gets written as soon as you start the
>> transport and stops being written as soon as you stop it. In other
>> words, previously recorded automation will be overwritten, regardless
>> of when/whether you touch a parameter.
>>
>> I seem to recall that from some testing I did a while ago, touch
>> seemed to behave the same as latch for me. If I'm right (and I'd need
>> to re-test to be sure), I think the reason is that REAPER doesn't seem
>> to realise that we've stopped touching a parameter when we adjust it
>> with an extension like OSARA. In contrast, REAPER probably has logic
>> to guess when a mouse user has stopped moving the parameter; e.g. the
>> mouse stops moving.
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>> On 10/09/2015 3:25 PM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>>> What is flash? I assume that touch is last touched parameter. I
>>> posted on
>>> here a while ago about what flash meant and no-one seemed to know,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Belle
>>> via RWP
>>> Sent: 10 September 2015 06:23
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>
>>> One db isn't bad,
>>> that's 20 stacks of the 0.05 db.
>>>
>>> With stacking one can make what ever intervals they need.
>>>
>>> Automation is sure different in reaper than sonar, but I'm learning
>>> how to
>>> work with it, and it's actually better in some ways, we can actually
>>> edit it
>>> or over-write it in useful ways, just have to figure out when to use
>>> touch,
>>> and when to use latch, and so on and so forth.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/9/2015 11:24 PM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>>>> I thought about using 1 db gaps. My concern was that the increments
>>>> would be too large to go unnoticed and that you might have zipper
>>>> noise or a jurky fade, bearing in mind that you would have to mash the
>>>> key with individual presses to keep count of how many decibels of
>>>> gain you
>>> were applying.
>>>> Is that actually the case?
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Belle via RWP
>>>> Sent: 10 September 2015 04:57
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>>
>>>> Gosh you know, I'm chuckle headed sometimes 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>> That was mentioned, but I thought it might be the un-do instead if you
>>>> mess up stacking your actions or something.
>>>>
>>>> I'll go edit or remake them and see if it works.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2015 9:48 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Chris,  there is a checkbox for consolidating undo points,  which
>>>>> suggests that will take care of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, touch mode seems to be the most friendly about following you
>>>>>> around, obviously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that stacked actions thing has one down side, if you want to
>>>>>> undo, you have to undo a million things because each one is counted
>>>>>> separately.
>>>>>> It's not counted like one action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we're getting a tiny bit closer to the wonderful automation I am
>>>>>> used to in sonar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we must cowboy up and learn this new DAW if it kills us, Ha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2015 9:15 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey, I got it to work with NVDA by staying and clicking that
>>>>>>> default action numpad insert plus numpad enter till it went in
>>>>>>> there a bunch of times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hurray.
>>>>>>> I can have my one db volume down that should work with automation
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>> riding a fader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but this is my work
>>>>>>> around for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/9/2015 9:06 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well by golly I have jaws too, I'll just try that, can you keep
>>>>>>>> clicking to add it several times?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like makin that volume thing alt down arrow and alt up arrow
>>>>>>>> stack up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2015 2:07 AM, serge monahov via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Patrick!
>>>>>>>>> With JAWS I  just double click on action in first list and it
>>>>>>>>> appears in second one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>> Serge
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue via RWP"
>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, after using Reaper for about six years, I finally have a
>>>>>>>>>> need to create a custom action based on a chain of existing
>>>>>>>>>> actions. It seems the default way of doing this is to create a
>>>>>>>>>> new action in the actions list, then drag and drop actions into
>>>>>>>>>> a list in your preferred order of operations. I'm having no luck
>>>>>>>>>> getting this done with NVDA. Honestly, I'm feeling pretty stupid
>>>>>>>>>> at the moment, as I'm sure there is another, or at least a
>>>>>>>>>> better way to do this.
>>>>>>>>>> Any tips are greatly appreciated.
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