[Rwp] creating custom action chains

Thu Sep 10 10:18:35 EDT 2015

I was reading on a forum and apparently other guys are having the same 
problem with latch acting like touch,
but it's supposed to be like latch writes a straight line when you let 
go of it, and doesn't follow the curve of existing automation.

At any rate, though I've done some bitching about reaper's automation,
I am happy that we can at some extent over-write existing automation 
instead of having to just start over or blow it all away.

Now how do we get rid of automation or delete it if we want without 
deleting a track?

I saw those things in the track menu with envelopes, but they were 
always disabled?

On 9/10/2015 1:01 AM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
> It's latch, not flash.
>
> Touch means that automation starts getting recorded when you first 
> adjust (touch) the parameter and stops when you stop touching it. So, 
> once you stop touching it, if there was previously recorded 
> automation, it won't be overwritten.
> Latch means that automation starts getting recorded when you first 
> touch the parameter and then keeps getting recorded until you stop the 
> transport. So, if there was previously recorded automation after you 
> stopped touching the parameter, it will be overwritten.
> Write means that automation gets written as soon as you start the 
> transport and stops being written as soon as you stop it. In other 
> words, previously recorded automation will be overwritten, regardless 
> of when/whether you touch a parameter.
>
> I seem to recall that from some testing I did a while ago, touch 
> seemed to behave the same as latch for me. If I'm right (and I'd need 
> to re-test to be sure), I think the reason is that REAPER doesn't seem 
> to realise that we've stopped touching a parameter when we adjust it 
> with an extension like OSARA. In contrast, REAPER probably has logic 
> to guess when a mouse user has stopped moving the parameter; e.g. the 
> mouse stops moving.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 10/09/2015 3:25 PM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>> What is flash? I assume that touch is last touched parameter. I 
>> posted on
>> here a while ago about what flash meant and no-one seemed to know,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
>> Belle
>> via RWP
>> Sent: 10 September 2015 06:23
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>
>> One db isn't bad,
>> that's 20 stacks of the 0.05 db.
>>
>> With stacking one can make what ever intervals they need.
>>
>> Automation is sure different in reaper than sonar, but I'm learning 
>> how to
>> work with it, and it's actually better in some ways, we can actually 
>> edit it
>> or over-write it in useful ways, just have to figure out when to use 
>> touch,
>> and when to use latch, and so on and so forth.
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2015 11:24 PM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>>> I thought about using 1 db gaps. My concern was that the increments
>>> would be too large to go unnoticed and that you might have zipper
>>> noise or a jurky fade, bearing in mind that you would have to mash the
>>> key with individual presses to keep count of how many decibels of 
>>> gain you
>> were applying.
>>> Is that actually the case?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Belle via RWP
>>> Sent: 10 September 2015 04:57
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>
>>> Gosh you know, I'm chuckle headed sometimes 'grin'.
>>>
>>> That was mentioned, but I thought it might be the un-do instead if you
>>> mess up stacking your actions or something.
>>>
>>> I'll go edit or remake them and see if it works.
>>>
>>> On 9/9/2015 9:48 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
>>>> Chris,  there is a checkbox for consolidating undo points,  which
>>>> suggests that will take care of that.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, touch mode seems to be the most friendly about following you
>>>>> around, obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that stacked actions thing has one down side, if you want to
>>>>> undo, you have to undo a million things because each one is counted
>>>>> separately.
>>>>> It's not counted like one action.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we're getting a tiny bit closer to the wonderful automation I am
>>>>> used to in sonar.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we must cowboy up and learn this new DAW if it kills us, Ha.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/9/2015 9:15 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> Hey, I got it to work with NVDA by staying and clicking that
>>>>>> default action numpad insert plus numpad enter till it went in
>>>>>> there a bunch of times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hurray.
>>>>>> I can have my one db volume down that should work with automation 
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> riding a fader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but this is my work
>>>>>> around for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2015 9:06 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> Well by golly I have jaws too, I'll just try that, can you keep
>>>>>>> clicking to add it several times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like makin that volume thing alt down arrow and alt up arrow 
>>>>>>> stack up?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/16/2015 2:07 AM, serge monahov via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, Patrick!
>>>>>>>> With JAWS I  just double click on action in first list and it
>>>>>>>> appears in second one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> Serge
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue via RWP"
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:36 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rwp] creating custom action chains
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, after using Reaper for about six years, I finally have a
>>>>>>>>> need to create a custom action based on a chain of existing
>>>>>>>>> actions. It seems the default way of doing this is to create a
>>>>>>>>> new action in the actions list, then drag and drop actions into
>>>>>>>>> a list in your preferred order of operations. I'm having no luck
>>>>>>>>> getting this done with NVDA. Honestly, I'm feeling pretty stupid
>>>>>>>>> at the moment, as I'm sure there is another, or at least a
>>>>>>>>> better way to do this.
>>>>>>>>> Any tips are greatly appreciated.
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