[Rwp] Automating effects

Mon Sep 7 18:59:19 EDT 2015

Cool.  thanks for that.
So, is this a fixed action  that just bumps volume by 0.5?  That's what I 
was digging after, the name of that action, and whetehr there are other 
increments supported as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Macleod via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Cc: "Justin Macleod" <justinmacleod at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects

> I'm afraid I can't describe it step by step without replicating the steps
> myself but, when you press f4 to bring up the actions list, there is a new
> button that will bring up a create custom action dialuge. You designate a
> name for that action in the first edit box, then search in the second for
> the first action you want to perform. Once you've typed in your search 
> term,
> you can either drag it to the next list, which starts off empty, or I
> believe you can copy and paste. So, if you want to raise the pitch of an
> item by an octave say, you would need to drag/paste the same action into 
> the
> second list 12 times. Tehre is a consolidate undo points checkbox so that
> you can undo the whole chain if you check it with one undo.
>
> My custom action increases the volume by 0.5 DB instead of the default. 
> You
> then just designate a shortcut and job done.
>
> Thing is, I can't get NVDA to read the contents of that list so it'll take
> some experimenting with.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Snowman via
> RWP
> Sent: 07 September 2015 22:05
> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects
>
> Justin,
> You said:
> "...had to create a custom action to
> change the increments a key press would give me."
>
> Snowman again:  This would be very useful, this custom action.  How did 
> you
> do this?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Justin Macleod via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: "Justin Macleod" <justinmacleod at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects
>
>
>> Trouble with alt up and down arrow is it only moves you in preset
>> increments. If you want an exponential curve or something like that, it
>> becomes very tricky and would require a lot of experimenting, even with
>> the
>> excellent tip of slowing down the play rate for finer work. I wanted 
>> about
>> sixty DB of gain over a certain period and had to create a custom action
>> to
>> change the increments a key press would give me.
>>
>> Using the trim write mode, you can also automate the last touched
>> parameter
>> of any effect, but it is again quite difficult to control. The difference
>> between cursor up and page up is huge!
>>
>> By hitting the param button in the effects dialogue and going to modulate
>> parameters and fiddling about with the settings in there, , you can add
>> LFOs
>> of different shapes to pretty much any parameter, which would be used for
>> some automation tasks, particularly as you can tempo sync the lfo.
>>
>> You could, in theory, get Reaper to establish tempo based on time
>> selection,
>> set your project tempo to that, add the effect to an item, set a
>> tempo-synced saw wave lfo which would take the duration of the item to
>> fully
>> execute and thereby pan/fade/flange/phase whatever you wanted over the
>> desired period, if that makes sense. Of course, the success of this
>> method,
>> as with all work-arounds, depends on the material you're working with and
>> particularly the material that comes straight after it.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
>> via RWP
>> Sent: 07 September 2015 19:45
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects
>>
>> Well, one thing that does work is the volume up and down with alt down 
>> and
>> up arrow.
>>
>> that particular action seems to honor the automation readand write modes.
>>
>> So one could make a send to a bus with your fx, and then if you automate
>> the
>> volume on the track you are in essence automating the return bus instead
>> of
>> the send.
>>
>> One guy on here says he got it to move by big amounts by slowing down
>> reaper's playback so he could move a big distance in a small space, using
>> the qwerty keyboard,
>>
>> One  thing you could do using the item based fake automation most folks 
>> do
>> here for mixing volume and pan changes and such is to make a copy of your
>> track one with all dry, and one with all wet with the fx you wanted.
>>
>> Then slice up and dice up your fx track and raise and lower the volume as
>> you like, for instance you know it's common to use delay to repeat just a
>> few words of a verse or chorus, you can raise the volume of jus that item
>> slice, and then turn it down after that.
>>
>> And by growing and shrinking your edges you can make your transitions go
>> smoothly between big value volume or pan changes in items.
>>
>> This kind of sonic carpentry works so well for so many things, my long
>> time
>> client Earl who writes country and folk songs, and has nary a care for
>> missed 8th or quarter notes, or turning the beat upside down, well, 
>> reaper
>> to the rescue to put him relatively back on the beat 'grin'.
>> I haven't totally mastered this type of editing yet, but ifI mess about
>> with
>> it I can usually make it better than it was.
>> Something Patrick could probably get perfect in 30 seconds 'grin'.
>>
>>
>> On 9/7/2015 11:11 AM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>>> There are various ways to produce/mimick automation in Reaper.
>>> Apparently it works better with Osara than Rea Access, in that you can
>>> customise envelopes after you have created them. Under Rea Access, if
>>> you mess it up you have to go back to the beginning and do it again.
>>>
>>> I don't know more than that but www.cavitraining.org is about to run a
>>> short course on Reaper with Osara which is to include info on how to
>>> customise fade and panning envelopes.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>>> onlineeagle via RWP
>>> Sent: 07 September 2015 15:57
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: onlineeagle <onlineeagle at googlemail.com>
>>> Subject: [Rwp] Automating effects
>>>
>>> Hi, I've just been reading the conversation on this list about effects
>>> chaining, in wrich Chris intimated that automating effect parameters
>>> was a bit of a chalenge. I was planning to start using Reaper with
>>> Osara on windows this week, or at least attempt to start playing with
>>> it. One of my major reasons for using Reaper above Protools, which
>>> I've been working with for a year on the mac, is to be able to
>>> automate plugin parameters using a control surface, through midi
>>> learn. So, having read Chris's comment about plugin automation, I am
>>> looking for some clarification about if and how this can be done. 
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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