[Rwp] Automating effects

[Snowman]

Justin,
You said:
"...had to create a custom action to
change the increments a key press would give me."

Snowman again:  This would be very useful, this custom action.  How did you 
do this?




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin Macleod via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Cc: "Justin Macleod" <justinmacleod at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects


> Trouble with alt up and down arrow is it only moves you in preset
> increments. If you want an exponential curve or something like that, it
> becomes very tricky and would require a lot of experimenting, even with 
> the
> excellent tip of slowing down the play rate for finer work. I wanted about
> sixty DB of gain over a certain period and had to create a custom action 
> to
> change the increments a key press would give me.
>
> Using the trim write mode, you can also automate the last touched 
> parameter
> of any effect, but it is again quite difficult to control. The difference
> between cursor up and page up is huge!
>
> By hitting the param button in the effects dialogue and going to modulate
> parameters and fiddling about with the settings in there, , you can add 
> LFOs
> of different shapes to pretty much any parameter, which would be used for
> some automation tasks, particularly as you can tempo sync the lfo.
>
> You could, in theory, get Reaper to establish tempo based on time 
> selection,
> set your project tempo to that, add the effect to an item, set a
> tempo-synced saw wave lfo which would take the duration of the item to 
> fully
> execute and thereby pan/fade/flange/phase whatever you wanted over the
> desired period, if that makes sense. Of course, the success of this 
> method,
> as with all work-arounds, depends on the material you're working with and
> particularly the material that comes straight after it.
>
> Justin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
> via RWP
> Sent: 07 September 2015 19:45
> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects
>
> Well, one thing that does work is the volume up and down with alt down and
> up arrow.
>
> that particular action seems to honor the automation readand write modes.
>
> So one could make a send to a bus with your fx, and then if you automate 
> the
> volume on the track you are in essence automating the return bus instead 
> of
> the send.
>
> One guy on here says he got it to move by big amounts by slowing down
> reaper's playback so he could move a big distance in a small space, using
> the qwerty keyboard,
>
> One  thing you could do using the item based fake automation most folks do
> here for mixing volume and pan changes and such is to make a copy of your
> track one with all dry, and one with all wet with the fx you wanted.
>
> Then slice up and dice up your fx track and raise and lower the volume as
> you like, for instance you know it's common to use delay to repeat just a
> few words of a verse or chorus, you can raise the volume of jus that item
> slice, and then turn it down after that.
>
> And by growing and shrinking your edges you can make your transitions go
> smoothly between big value volume or pan changes in items.
>
> This kind of sonic carpentry works so well for so many things, my long 
> time
> client Earl who writes country and folk songs, and has nary a care for
> missed 8th or quarter notes, or turning the beat upside down, well, reaper
> to the rescue to put him relatively back on the beat 'grin'.
> I haven't totally mastered this type of editing yet, but ifI mess about 
> with
> it I can usually make it better than it was.
> Something Patrick could probably get perfect in 30 seconds 'grin'.
>
>
> On 9/7/2015 11:11 AM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>> There are various ways to produce/mimick automation in Reaper.
>> Apparently it works better with Osara than Rea Access, in that you can
>> customise envelopes after you have created them. Under Rea Access, if
>> you mess it up you have to go back to the beginning and do it again.
>>
>> I don't know more than that but www.cavitraining.org is about to run a
>> short course on Reaper with Osara which is to include info on how to
>> customise fade and panning envelopes.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of
>> onlineeagle via RWP
>> Sent: 07 September 2015 15:57
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Cc: onlineeagle <onlineeagle at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: [Rwp] Automating effects
>>
>> Hi, I've just been reading the conversation on this list about effects
>> chaining, in wrich Chris intimated that automating effect parameters
>> was a bit of a chalenge. I was planning to start using Reaper with
>> Osara on windows this week, or at least attempt to start playing with
>> it. One of my major reasons for using Reaper above Protools, which
>> I've been working with for a year on the mac, is to be able to
>> automate plugin parameters using a control surface, through midi
>> learn. So, having read Chris's comment about plugin automation, I am
>> looking for some clarification about if and how this can be done. Thanks.
>>
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