[Rwp] Automating effects

[Justin Macleod]

Trouble with alt up and down arrow is it only moves you in preset
increments. If you want an exponential curve or something like that, it
becomes very tricky and would require a lot of experimenting, even with the
excellent tip of slowing down the play rate for finer work. I wanted about
sixty DB of gain over a certain period and had to create a custom action to
change the increments a key press would give me. 

Using the trim write mode, you can also automate the last touched parameter
of any effect, but it is again quite difficult to control. The difference
between cursor up and page up is huge! 

By hitting the param button in the effects dialogue and going to modulate
parameters and fiddling about with the settings in there, , you can add LFOs
of different shapes to pretty much any parameter, which would be used for
some automation tasks, particularly as you can tempo sync the lfo. 

You could, in theory, get Reaper to establish tempo based on time selection,
set your project tempo to that, add the effect to an item, set a
tempo-synced saw wave lfo which would take the duration of the item to fully
execute and thereby pan/fade/flange/phase whatever you wanted over the
desired period, if that makes sense. Of course, the success of this method,
as with all work-arounds, depends on the material you're working with and
particularly the material that comes straight after it. 

Justin 



-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
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Sent: 07 September 2015 19:45
To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Cc: Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Automating effects

Well, one thing that does work is the volume up and down with alt down and
up arrow.

that particular action seems to honor the automation readand write modes.

So one could make a send to a bus with your fx, and then if you automate the
volume on the track you are in essence automating the return bus instead of
the send.

One guy on here says he got it to move by big amounts by slowing down
reaper's playback so he could move a big distance in a small space, using
the qwerty keyboard,

One  thing you could do using the item based fake automation most folks do
here for mixing volume and pan changes and such is to make a copy of your
track one with all dry, and one with all wet with the fx you wanted.

Then slice up and dice up your fx track and raise and lower the volume as
you like, for instance you know it's common to use delay to repeat just a
few words of a verse or chorus, you can raise the volume of jus that item
slice, and then turn it down after that.

And by growing and shrinking your edges you can make your transitions go
smoothly between big value volume or pan changes in items.

This kind of sonic carpentry works so well for so many things, my long time
client Earl who writes country and folk songs, and has nary a care for
missed 8th or quarter notes, or turning the beat upside down, well, reaper
to the rescue to put him relatively back on the beat 'grin'.
I haven't totally mastered this type of editing yet, but ifI mess about with
it I can usually make it better than it was.
Something Patrick could probably get perfect in 30 seconds 'grin'.


On 9/7/2015 11:11 AM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
> There are various ways to produce/mimick automation in Reaper. 
> Apparently it works better with Osara than Rea Access, in that you can 
> customise envelopes after you have created them. Under Rea Access, if 
> you mess it up you have to go back to the beginning and do it again.
>
> I don't know more than that but www.cavitraining.org is about to run a 
> short course on Reaper with Osara which is to include info on how to 
> customise fade and panning envelopes.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Justin
>
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> Cc: onlineeagle <onlineeagle at googlemail.com>
> Subject: [Rwp] Automating effects
>
> Hi, I've just been reading the conversation on this list about effects 
> chaining, in wrich Chris intimated that automating effect parameters 
> was a bit of a chalenge. I was planning to start using Reaper with 
> Osara on windows this week, or at least attempt to start playing with 
> it. One of my major reasons for using Reaper above Protools, which 
> I've been working with for a year on the mac, is to be able to 
> automate plugin parameters using a control surface, through midi 
> learn. So, having read Chris's comment about plugin automation, I am 
> looking for some clarification about if and how this can be done. Thanks.
>
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