[Rwp] Effect chaining
Chris Belle
cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 7 10:35:55 EDT 2015
To further explain with track folders, even though you can set
everything to the wet side, and put your fx in series, you do not have
control of the relative levels of wet to dry signals,
individually, per track.
If you turn down your feeding track, you turn down the feed to your fx,
which may not be a problem,
but if you use sends, you have control over panning as well, which can
affect your sense of width,
two sends will make a stereo pair,
most verbs and delays and such work well enough with only a mono send,
but that gives you more options,
with being able to pan your sends, you can create a lot more sonic
possibilities, like having a small verb on one side and a big verb on
the other side, and also using multiple sends you can decide which parts
of your process are in series and which are in paralel.
YOu can use more than one track for fx, so that you might have say a
global reverb,
that you can create another send to that is not part of your series
stacked fx.
On 9/7/2015 9:26 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
> Whoops, yes I did forget to mention that in my explanation, you just
> set all your fx to the wet side if you are going to bus them to a
> track and use a send from another track.
>
> And if you set your sends to be pre
> fader, then you will have total control over your wet and dry
> proportions, unlike using a track folder,
> which is more like using a sub mix.
>
> YOu can turn the volume all the way down on your feeding track,
> with your dry audio
> and get nothing but fx
>
>
>
> On 9/7/2015 7:14 AM, Justin Macleod via RWP wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you apply your delay to a track and then apply your subtle effect,
>> you will be applying it in series with your delay, therefore it
>> should work, that is, if you don’t have your dry signal in the mix or
>> if your dry signal is mono, so that the only stereo aspect comes from
>> the delay, which can then be widened by your subtle effect.
>>
>> If, however, you have a stereo dry signal, which you want in your
>> final mix and you don’t want widened, if you only want its delays to
>> be widened, what you should do is send your audio to a track with the
>> delay on it, keeping send to parent enabled on the sending track,
>> with the delay on your receiving track set to 100% wet. Then you can
>> apply the subtle effect to your receive and only the wet signal will
>> be widened.
>>
>> I hope this makes sense, reading back over it it doesn’t look
>> particularly well explained.
>>
>> Basically, slapping a bunch of effects on a track is always done in
>> series, so that the latest effect processes the results of the ones
>> before it, including any dry left in the mix.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> *From:*RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *Tayeb Meftah via RWP
>> *Sent:* 07 September 2015 10:43
>> *To:* Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> *Cc:* Tayeb Meftah <tayeb.meftah at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Rwp] Effect chaining
>>
>> Hi Chriss,
>>
>> pretty well explained, thank you
>>
>> i'm still a bit confused
>>
>> i dont want to aply several fx at the same time to a track or more,
>> this can be done using a feeding track outputting to an fx buss
>>
>> my idea is:
>>
>> let's say we have track called "vocal1"
>>
>> this track i want it to have a delay effect
>>
>> but the delay effect i want it to have other subeffect not applied
>> directly to the track, but to the result of the delay itself
>>
>> i could for example phase it, use a special stereo imager or anything
>> i could imagine it to be good for that vocal track
>>
>> i hope you got me :)
>>
>> btw both you & justin have well explained it i thank you all so much
>>
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPad
>>
>> Le 7 sept. 2015 à 01:35, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com
>> <mailto:rwp at bluegrasspals.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> I'm just now starting to play with track folders, but yes it's
>> possible, will let someone else help with that.
>>
>> But with the fx thing and putting your delay to another fx like
>> you mentioned, just insert your fx in the order you want on a
>> track, and consider that track an fx bus.
>>
>> Then make a send from a feeding track to that fx track,, and then
>> you are golden.
>>
>> Now when it comes to automation and such,
>> that's another story,
>> and that is an area in reaper some of us are struggling with,
>> that I find much easier in sonar.
>>
>> But yes, you can layer your fx, and feed one track with another
>> track, and sends and
>> receives any way you like it as far as I can tell, and as others
>> more reaperized than I am have indicated.
>>
>> I just created my first track folder about 5 minutes ago,
>> so let wiser more experienced heads chime in and tell all if they
>> have time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/6/2015 6:50 PM, Tayeb Meftah via RWP wrote:
>>
>> hi guys
>>
>> i'm quickly getting started with reaper happyly
>>
>> what i want is to pass a effect to another effect chain
>> befaure aplying it to a particular track
>>
>> example:
>>
>> do a delay to track 1
>>
>> but befaure aplying the delay, pass the delay result itself
>> through a stereo widener or a reverb or something
>>
>> is that pocible?
>>
>> another thing
>>
>> is it pocible to group tracks and aply the effect to the mix
>> rather thant particular track?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
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