[Rwp] sidechaining.

Patrick Perdue patrick at pdaudio.net
Sun Sep 6 19:57:13 EDT 2015


Nope, AA batteries, and I prefer it that way. If it dies, no need to 
wait for it to charge.
It's the IOGear GKM611B.

On 9/6/2015 7:46 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP wrote:
> Oh my God, Patrick, if you tell me that this thing charges via USB, and
> not by putting double/tripple A batteries in it, then you're gona have a
> winner! What make/model is this thing, and what is its price?
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue via RWP"
> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.
>
>
>> I have one of those bluetooth keyboard/mouse trackpad combos, which I
>> use as a primary keyboard. It also happens to control up to six
>> computers/devices, which is why I like it. The sighted people complain
>> that the trackpad is too small to be useful. It is pretty tiny. Works
>> for me though on those times when things need to actually be clicked
>> by a mouse.
>>
>> On 9/6/2015 6:29 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>> Hey Jim, I haven't tried it with jaws yet to see if that sends routing
>>> thingy can be done with it,
>>> but I know it works with NVDA.
>>>
>>> This makes two days in a row I've managed to make progress with reaper,
>>> ha, I might get out on the high way yet with this infernal thing 'grin'.
>>> A small primate with a giant brain who I'm proud to call friend
>>> took pity on me and showed me the error of my ways,
>>>
>>> I just had a thought.
>>> Sometimes these virtual mouse thingies won't work when a real mouse
>>> will.
>>> You are in the right place to click, the virtual mouse will take you
>>> there, but won't perform the action.
>>>
>>> I ran in to this just the other day with a reflections loader,
>>> jaws OCR found the spot to load the IR
>>> but for nothin would it click the icon to open the load dialogue.
>>>
>>> So I hooked up a rodent and pressed the button, and sure enough, it
>>> worked.
>>>
>>> So I recommend every blindy keep a rodent around, and I even took the
>>> ball out of mine so it wouldn't drift on me, but stay put, and just give
>>> me the real buttons to press.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/6/2015 4:58 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
>>>> nice clear video, except for the crucial parts. Right.  Just click
>>>> here, and drag there, and bingo, you're in.
>>>> Always the problem.  The important stuff, the part we are missing, is
>>>> in the quicky visual gestures.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>>>>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also
>>>>> has the compressor on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>>>>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>>>>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining
>>>>> will be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head
>>>>> around this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with
>>>>>> a send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning
>>>>>>> the track out put of
>>>>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>>>>> resides on
>>>>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't
>>>>>>> hear it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling
>>>>>>> music,
>>>>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan
>>>>>>> hear the audio because the main output of it is controling the side
>>>>>>> chain on the other track.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the
>>>>>>> making a 4 track part right,
>>>>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when
>>>>>>> you press i don't talk yet,
>>>>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>>>>> it says
>>>>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use reacomp
>>>>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not
>>>>>>> from the fx which is what I want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do
>>>>>>> it with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >=
>>>>>>> one and
>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>>>>> listening to another track.
>>>>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>>>>> down to everything
>>>>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>>>>> and cackle.
>>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4?
>>>>>>>>> Or is it the
>>>>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use
>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to
>>>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to
>>>>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess;
>>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >=
>>>>>>>>>> one and
>>>>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any
>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit
>>>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in
>>>>>>>>>>> and outs
>>>>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
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