[Rwp] sidechaining.

Sun Sep 6 19:46:45 EDT 2015

Oh my God, Patrick, if you tell me that this thing charges via USB, and not 
by putting double/tripple A batteries in it, then you're gona have a winner! 
What make/model is this thing, and what is its price?

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Perdue via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Cc: "Patrick Perdue" <patrick at pdaudio.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.

>I have one of those bluetooth keyboard/mouse trackpad combos, which I use 
>as a primary keyboard. It also happens to control up to six 
>computers/devices, which is why I like it. The sighted people complain that 
>the trackpad is too small to be useful. It is pretty tiny. Works for me 
>though on those times when things need to actually be clicked by a mouse.
>
> On 9/6/2015 6:29 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>> Hey Jim, I haven't tried it with jaws yet to see if that sends routing
>> thingy can be done with it,
>> but I know it works with NVDA.
>>
>> This makes two days in a row I've managed to make progress with reaper,
>> ha, I might get out on the high way yet with this infernal thing 'grin'.
>> A small primate with a giant brain who I'm proud to call friend
>> took pity on me and showed me the error of my ways,
>>
>> I just had a thought.
>> Sometimes these virtual mouse thingies won't work when a real mouse will.
>> You are in the right place to click, the virtual mouse will take you
>> there, but won't perform the action.
>>
>> I ran in to this just the other day with a reflections loader,
>> jaws OCR found the spot to load the IR
>> but for nothin would it click the icon to open the load dialogue.
>>
>> So I hooked up a rodent and pressed the button, and sure enough, it 
>> worked.
>>
>> So I recommend every blindy keep a rodent around, and I even took the
>> ball out of mine so it wouldn't drift on me, but stay put, and just give
>> me the real buttons to press.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/6/2015 4:58 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
>>> nice clear video, except for the crucial parts. Right.  Just click
>>> here, and drag there, and bingo, you're in.
>>> Always the problem.  The important stuff, the part we are missing, is
>>> in the quicky visual gestures.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>>>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also
>>>> has the compressor on it.
>>>>
>>>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>>>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>>>
>>>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>>>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining
>>>> will be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head
>>>> around this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with
>>>>> a send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>>>
>>>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning
>>>>>> the track out put of
>>>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>>>> resides on
>>>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't
>>>>>> hear it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling
>>>>>> music,
>>>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan
>>>>>> hear the audio because the main output of it is controling the side
>>>>>> chain on the other track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the
>>>>>> making a 4 track part right,
>>>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when
>>>>>> you press i don't talk yet,
>>>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>>>> it says
>>>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use reacomp
>>>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not
>>>>>> from the fx which is what I want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do
>>>>>> it with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>>>> listening to another track.
>>>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>>>> down to everything
>>>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>>>> and cackle.
>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4?
>>>>>>>> Or is it the
>>>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use as 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to
>>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to
>>>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess;
>>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >=
>>>>>>>>> one and
>>>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any
>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit
>>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in
>>>>>>>>>> and outs
>>>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
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