[Rwp] sidechaining.

Sun Sep 6 19:05:14 EDT 2015

Chris wrote:
"it is tricky inserting sends and receives because if you linger too
long on the wrong place you get things inserted automatically, and
then have to go clean up."

Weird behaviour isn't it. There's a setting in Preferences under
Keyboard and Multi-touch which toggles this for some edit fields, but
not in the combobox you're talking about. I distantly remember finding
a way to stop it from happening, perhaps Alt+Down to actually open the
combobox instead of scrolling was what did it. I'll check next time
I'm Reaping if you don't get to try it before then.

Scott

On 9/6/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Hey Jim, I haven't tried it with jaws yet to see if that sends routing
> thingy can be done with it,
> but I know it works with NVDA.
>
> This makes two days in a row I've managed to make progress with reaper,
> ha, I might get out on the high way yet with this infernal thing 'grin'.
> A small primate with a giant brain who I'm proud to call friend
> took pity on me and showed me the error of my ways,
>
> I just had a thought.
> Sometimes these virtual mouse thingies won't work when a real mouse will.
> You are in the right place to click, the virtual mouse will take you
> there, but won't perform the action.
>
> I ran in to this just the other day with a reflections loader,
> jaws OCR found the spot to load the IR
> but for nothin would it click the icon to open the load dialogue.
>
> So I hooked up a rodent and pressed the button, and sure enough, it worked.
>
> So I recommend every blindy keep a rodent around, and I even took the
> ball out of mine so it wouldn't drift on me, but stay put, and just give
> me the real buttons to press.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/6/2015 4:58 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
>> nice clear video, except for the crucial parts. Right.  Just click
>> here, and drag there, and bingo, you're in.
>> Always the problem.  The important stuff, the part we are missing, is
>> in the quicky visual gestures.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.
>>
>>
>>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also
>>> has the compressor on it.
>>>
>>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>>
>>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining
>>> will be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head
>>> around this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with
>>>> a send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>>
>>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>>
>>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning
>>>>> the track out put of
>>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>>> resides on
>>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>>
>>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't
>>>>> hear it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling
>>>>> music,
>>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan
>>>>> hear the audio because the main output of it is controling the side
>>>>> chain on the other track.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the
>>>>> making a 4 track part right,
>>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when
>>>>> you press i don't talk yet,
>>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>>> it says
>>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>>
>>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use reacomp
>>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not
>>>>> from the fx which is what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do
>>>>> it with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>>
>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one and
>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>>> listening to another track.
>>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>>> down to everything
>>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>>> and cackle.
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4?
>>>>>>> Or is it the
>>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use as a
>>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to
>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to
>>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess;
>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >=
>>>>>>>> one and
>>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit
>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in
>>>>>>>>> and outs
>>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>>> thanks
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