[Rwp] sidechaining.

Sun Sep 6 18:29:18 EDT 2015

Hey Jim, I haven't tried it with jaws yet to see if that sends routing 
thingy can be done with it,
but I know it works with NVDA.

This makes two days in a row I've managed to make progress with reaper,
ha, I might get out on the high way yet with this infernal thing 'grin'.
A small primate with a giant brain who I'm proud to call friend
took pity on me and showed me the error of my ways,

I just had a thought.
Sometimes these virtual mouse thingies won't work when a real mouse will.
You are in the right place to click, the virtual mouse will take you 
there, but won't perform the action.

I ran in to this just the other day with a reflections loader,
jaws OCR found the spot to load the IR
but for nothin would it click the icon to open the load dialogue.

So I hooked up a rodent and pressed the button, and sure enough, it worked.

So I recommend every blindy keep a rodent around, and I even took the 
ball out of mine so it wouldn't drift on me, but stay put, and just give 
me the real buttons to press.

On 9/6/2015 4:58 PM, Snowman via RWP wrote:
> nice clear video, except for the crucial parts. Right.  Just click 
> here, and drag there, and bingo, you're in.
> Always the problem.  The important stuff, the part we are missing, is 
> in the quicky visual gestures.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP" 
> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] sidechaining.
>
>
>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks 
>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also 
>> has the compressor on it.
>>
>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>
>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>
>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining 
>> will be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head 
>> around this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with 
>>> a send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>
>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>
>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>
>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning 
>>>> the track out put of
>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which 
>>>> resides on
>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>
>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't 
>>>> hear it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling 
>>>> music,
>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan 
>>>> hear the audio because the main output of it is controling the side 
>>>> chain on the other track.
>>>>
>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some 
>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the 
>>>> making a 4 track part right,
>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when 
>>>> you press i don't talk yet,
>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where 
>>>> it says
>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>
>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of 
>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> I use reacomp
>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it 
>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue, 
>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this 
>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to 
>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is 
>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not 
>>>> from the fx which is what I want.
>>>>
>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do 
>>>> it with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>
>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>
>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one and
>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>
>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and 
>>>> listening to another track.
>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside 
>>>> down to everything
>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it 
>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble 
>>>> and cackle.
>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick 
>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on 
>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4? 
>>>>>> Or is it the
>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP 
>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use as a
>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to 
>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to 
>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess; 
>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= 
>>>>>>> one and
>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any 
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit 
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in 
>>>>>>>> and outs
>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible 
>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>> thanks
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