[Rwp] sidechaining.

Sun Sep 6 15:24:25 EDT 2015

Nope, no received needed to be inserted only a send from your feeding track.
But your first track with the processor and the thing, the audio you 
want to duck or whatever
needs to be a 4 channel track.

In stead of clicking on those second set of numbers when you re-route 
the send after you create it on the second track,
the i/o dialogue where you press i,
try using the NVDA and num pad enter key instead of clicking
that worked for me to bring up the context menu to re-route the send.

Perhaps Jamie can work on making this menu a bit easier to get to.
I don't know if when you tab  if visually the tab order goes through 
this menu
but I know certain things in that dialogue don't talk,
so it's possible.

Anyway, when you first create that send,
it will be pointed at the first track,
I just arrowed down once,
and it is tricky inserting sends and receives because if you linger too 
long on the wrong place you get things inserted automatically, and then 
have to go clean up.

I wish reaper didn't do that.

But then the send is not pointing right when you created it, and that 
when you have to go under neath it and get that context menu and 
re-route it to the third and 4th channels of the 4 channel track.
And you also have to put the detector input of reacomp there,
it's auxiliary lr setting.

On 9/6/2015 1:08 PM, Roger Alexanderson via RWP wrote:
> so, if i get you right, i have to also insert a recieve on the second 
> track on 3/4?
> i've tried to right click on the second 1/2 on the first track, but 
> nothing happens
>
>
> Den 2015-09-06 kl. 04:05, skrev Patrick Perdue via RWP:
>> Here's how I do side-chaining with OSARA. Note that I'm using NVDA, 
>> but you should be able to apply this to any screen reader's review mode.
>>
>> 1. On the track to be side-chained, press "i" to get to the track 
>> I/o, and make sure track channels is set to at least 4.
>> 2. From the track to drive the side-chain input, press i for the 
>> track I/O dialogue, and add a send to the track you want to affect.
>> 3. Now with the send added, use your screen reader's review mode to 
>> find the send you just created. It will be clearly labeled, something 
>> like Send to track <x> "TrackName."
>> Under this send, you should find a line that says "Audio:1/2 =>1/2." 
>> Right click on the last 1/2. A context menu of destination channels 
>> should appear, allowing you to select other channels for that 
>> specific send.
>> Select 3/4 if your processor input is set to receive from those 
>> channels.
>>
>> And, that should basically do it for routing. The next step, at least 
>> with the built-in Reaper plugins that do side-chaining is to make 
>> sure the detector input is set to auxiliary left/right.
>>
>> On 9/5/2015 9:18 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also 
>>> has
>>> the compressor on it.
>>>
>>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>>
>>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining will
>>> be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head around
>>> this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with a
>>>> send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>>
>>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>>
>>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning the
>>>>> track out put of
>>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>>> resides on
>>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>>
>>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't hear
>>>>> it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling music,
>>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan hear
>>>>> the audio because the main output of it is controling the side chain
>>>>> on the other track.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the making
>>>>> a 4 track part right,
>>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when you
>>>>> press i don't talk yet,
>>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>>> it says
>>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>>
>>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use reacomp
>>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not from
>>>>> the fx which is what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do it
>>>>> with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>>
>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one 
>>>>> and
>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>>> listening to another track.
>>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>>> down  to everything
>>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>>> and cackle.
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4? Or
>>>>>>> is it the
>>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP 
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use 
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to 
>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to 
>>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess; not
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any 
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows 
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit 
>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in and
>>>>>>>>> outs
>>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>>> thanks
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