[Rwp] sidechaining.

Roger Alexanderson roger77swe at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 6 14:43:13 EDT 2015


oh, i solved it, i just had to change the braille to tether for previews.

Den 2015-09-06 kl. 20:08, skrev Roger Alexanderson via RWP:
> so, if i get you right, i have to also insert a recieve on the second 
> track on 3/4?
> i've tried to right click on the second 1/2 on the first track, but 
> nothing happens
>
>
> Den 2015-09-06 kl. 04:05, skrev Patrick Perdue via RWP:
>> Here's how I do side-chaining with OSARA. Note that I'm using NVDA, 
>> but you should be able to apply this to any screen reader's review mode.
>>
>> 1. On the track to be side-chained, press "i" to get to the track 
>> I/o, and make sure track channels is set to at least 4.
>> 2. From the track to drive the side-chain input, press i for the 
>> track I/O dialogue, and add a send to the track you want to affect.
>> 3. Now with the send added, use your screen reader's review mode to 
>> find the send you just created. It will be clearly labeled, something 
>> like Send to track <x> "TrackName."
>> Under this send, you should find a line that says "Audio:1/2 =>1/2." 
>> Right click on the last 1/2. A context menu of destination channels 
>> should appear, allowing you to select other channels for that 
>> specific send.
>> Select 3/4 if your processor input is set to receive from those 
>> channels.
>>
>> And, that should basically do it for routing. The next step, at least 
>> with the built-in Reaper plugins that do side-chaining is to make 
>> sure the detector input is set to auxiliary left/right.
>>
>> On 9/5/2015 9:18 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also 
>>> has
>>> the compressor on it.
>>>
>>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>>
>>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>>
>>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining will
>>> be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head around
>>> this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with a
>>>> send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>>
>>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>>
>>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning the
>>>>> track out put of
>>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>>> resides on
>>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>>
>>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't hear
>>>>> it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling music,
>>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan hear
>>>>> the audio because the main output of it is controling the side chain
>>>>> on the other track.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the making
>>>>> a 4 track part right,
>>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when you
>>>>> press i don't talk yet,
>>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>>> it says
>>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>>
>>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use reacomp
>>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not from
>>>>> the fx which is what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do it
>>>>> with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>>
>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one 
>>>>> and
>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>>> listening to another track.
>>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>>> down  to everything
>>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>>> and cackle.
>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4? Or
>>>>>>> is it the
>>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP 
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use 
>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to 
>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to 
>>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess; not
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any 
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows 
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit 
>>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in and
>>>>>>>>> outs
>>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>>> thanks
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