[Rwp] sidechaining.

Roger Alexanderson roger77swe at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 6 14:08:17 EDT 2015


so, if i get you right, i have to also insert a recieve on the second 
track on 3/4?
i've tried to right click on the second 1/2 on the first track, but 
nothing happens


Den 2015-09-06 kl. 04:05, skrev Patrick Perdue via RWP:
> Here's how I do side-chaining with OSARA. Note that I'm using NVDA, 
> but you should be able to apply this to any screen reader's review mode.
>
> 1. On the track to be side-chained, press "i" to get to the track I/o, 
> and make sure track channels is set to at least 4.
> 2. From the track to drive the side-chain input, press i for the track 
> I/O dialogue, and add a send to the track you want to affect.
> 3. Now with the send added, use your screen reader's review mode to 
> find the send you just created. It will be clearly labeled, something 
> like Send to track <x> "TrackName."
> Under this send, you should find a line that says "Audio:1/2 =>1/2." 
> Right click on the last 1/2. A context menu of destination channels 
> should appear, allowing you to select other channels for that specific 
> send.
> Select 3/4 if your processor input is set to receive from those channels.
>
> And, that should basically do it for routing. The next step, at least 
> with the built-in Reaper plugins that do side-chaining is to make sure 
> the detector input is set to auxiliary left/right.
>
> On 9/5/2015 9:18 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>> Well, I know I got the sends part right becauseI can hear both tracks
>> when I solo the track which has the audio I want to affect, and also has
>> the compressor on it.
>>
>> This is what the guy in the video did,
>> I believe he's doing it the traditional way.
>>
>> I know we have to do things round about because of access issues,
>> there are different ways to do the same thing.
>>
>> I can't figure out either one of them for now, so my side chaining will
>> be limited to my other daw for the time being till I get my head around
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/5/2015 7:22 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>> Even in this you tube video, he's doing it the traditional way with a
>>> send and the comp lies on the bass track.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qELUfGKzJg
>>>
>>> So we can't do it that way I'm gonna try.
>>>
>>> This looks like the way it's supposed to be done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/5/2015 7:12 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>> Well, I admit defeat for the; moment, I sure can't get it to work.
>>>>
>>>> I know how this stuff works, in sonar, it's as easy as assigning the
>>>> track out put of
>>>> your controling track, to the side chain input of an effect, which
>>>> resides on
>>>> a track with audio you want to control.
>>>>
>>>> This usurps your audio from that controling track, so you can't hear
>>>> it anymore, the simple example being a voice over controling music,
>>>> so you have to make a send from that voice over track so youcan hear
>>>> the audio because the main output of it is controling the side chain
>>>> on the other track.
>>>>
>>>> It seems like we're going about it the other way around here,
>>>> putting the processor or fx on the controling track, and then some
>>>> how making the receiving track listen to it, I think I got the making
>>>> a 4 track part right,
>>>> I'm using Osara, and some of those field when you tab around when you
>>>> press i don't talk yet,
>>>> and object nav hasn't shown me up anything yet, but I changed where
>>>> it says
>>>> track channel and made it 4
>>>> That's right after pan and width.
>>>>
>>>> so I'm assuming that gives the traxck the ability to send a copy of
>>>> itself elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> I use reacomp
>>>> as my experiment, and I went in to the fx window and saw where it
>>>> said detector input and changed that to
>>>> auxiliary lr,
>>>> and I know reacomp is not receiving from that
>>>> because it quits working of course.
>>>> But making the other track receive the signal I think is the issue,
>>>> I've tried things with sends andreceives, but reaper has this
>>>> maddening thing of automatically doing things when you arrow to
>>>> certain places in that dialogue, all I've succeeded in doing is
>>>> getting copies of my audio send to the different track, but not from
>>>> the fx which is what I want.
>>>>
>>>> This is a fairly straight forward thing I've done for years can do it
>>>> with hardware, and with sonar, why is it such a pain in reaper?
>>>>
>>>> In osara I don't see anything readily that says
>>>>
>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one and
>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>> maybe this is something yet to be fixed up in Osara,
>>>> I can't see how to tell the track to listen to the side chain.
>>>>
>>>> In a normal situation that fx would be residing on that track and
>>>> listening to another track.
>>>> Reaper is so powerful but it does everything sideways and upside
>>>> down  to everything
>>>> traditionally with audio  in the ways the rest of the world does it
>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>> Give me a bunch of bananas, I'm going to sit in my tree, and babble
>>>> and cackle.
>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/3/2015 10:22 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>> You have it correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/1/15, theoreomonster--- via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> just to clarify if i wanted the bass to duct overtime the kick
>>>>>> hits, i would
>>>>>> make the bass track a 4 channel track and put the compressor on
>>>>>> that one and
>>>>>> set the input to 3/4, then set the kick drum track to 1/2>=3/4? Or
>>>>>> is it the
>>>>>> other way around ?
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 10:15 PM, Alex H. via RWP 
>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Make your receiving track (the one with the effect u wanna use as a
>>>>>>> side chaining thing) a 4 channel track.
>>>>>>> On the effects on that track, Set the input on the plugin to 
>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>> 3/4. It's sometimes called auxiliary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go to the other track, the one with the audio you wish to 
>>>>>>> manipulate
>>>>>>> and bring up the track routing dialog. It's I with reaaccess; not
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> with OSARA.
>>>>>>> Find the buttons that say audio 1/2 and >=1/2. Press on the >= one
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> select 3/4. Done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps, jotting down from memory as I don't have any 
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> to Reaper to double check. Someone else will chime in who knows 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> stuff I'm sure :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, Roger Alexanderson via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> hi.
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get sidechain compression to work but it's a bit 
>>>>>>>> of a
>>>>>>>> hazard.
>>>>>>>> i followed instruction on the cockos forums.
>>>>>>>> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=17729
>>>>>>>> the first problem i found was it's a bit tricky to get the in and
>>>>>>>> outs
>>>>>>>> right in the i/o routing dialogue.
>>>>>>>> secondly the plugin pin connector doesn't seem to be accessible
>>>>>>>> at all,
>>>>>>>> at least not in reacomp.
>>>>>>>> any ideas.
>>>>>>>> thanks
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