[Rwp] Reaper and Windows 10 Support

Tue Oct 20 20:16:46 EDT 2015

W7 will be around a long time, 5 years is a lot of time for things to 
change.

Just because official
support for an os ends doesn't mean you have to stop using it, you'd be 
very surprised
at how many embedded systems like credit card kiosks and such still even 
use xp.

and for our daw systems, using the latest operating system isn't usually 
necessary or even desired, maturity and stability is desired over having 
all the latest bangs and whistles.

The touch interface
is the biggest issue with the latest version of windows,
often corporate bodies are very conservative and slow to embrace a new 
operating system,
but microsoft will always push it as that's how they stay alive by 
selling us new ways to do the same old things 'grin'.

This happens over and over again, people panick and think they have to 
upgrade, and they get in all sorts of trouble,
but what they are opting in to is being on the bleeding edge of a not so 
mature and stable operating system,
and then microsoft or who ever get's a free pool of beta testers.

If you always get budget hardware or buy off the latest retail shelves, 
then you'll get the latest operating system most of the time, but if you 
buy better stuff, then you usually have the option of better and longer 
support for well healed operating systems
as far as device drivers,
most of the important ones are not up to microsoft,
but the manufacturers of the hardware,
microsoft is was trying to compete with apple a bit with it's own 
tablets and such, but they weren't received as well,
and even though they are more powerful than apple's tablets, the apps 
are not there yet,
and bang for buck it's a lot more expensive to run a tablet and get the 
same power and flexibility
and expandability as you would with a desktop or even a laptop system.

Microsoft made all those mistakes with vista, so 10 is supposed to fix 
it all,
but time will tell if 10 will be all
it's cracked up to be.
The great thing about reaper is that it doesn't depend on the internet
to run and authorize like other DAW's do,
I personally have never taken to being strong-armed on how to administer 
my systems,
and now we have other options for general computing,
linux is a very good option for email, and web surfing and many general 
types of tasks.

It is also very easy to install a talking llinux distro.

Also,
if I know the hacker community, someone will figure out how to kill 
microsoft's
insistance on updating
if they don't want it.

I know this is not
always the best way to do things, but people find a way to do what they 
want,
jail breaking and rooting, and all these kinds of things are so people 
can work the way they want to.
instead of putting up with how some company says you're supposed to do it.

You're not required to run any operating system you don't want to.

On 10/20/2015 6:31 PM, Keith Hinton via RWP wrote:
> Well, you won't have a choice by 2020 as Windows 7 extended support
> ends officially then. Windows Ten will be supported until 2025. And
> who knows if we will be forced as such. Microsoft really does want
> people off older versions of Windows though and specificly on Ten
> though, to be sure. Why do you think they changed the way Windows
> updates amongst other things work? You will have no choice at all
> about device drivers, etc. You will be updated, no questions asked,
> and while you can defer Windows updates for a time in the Pro edition
> of Windows Ten, you must update regardless in the long run. And like I
> say, this means anything Microsoft wishes to do with your computer.
> Device drivers etc. Nothing is optional as far as updates any longer.
> And as for the home users? They're stuck with updates no way to turn
> them off.
>
> On 10/20/15, Clarence Griffin via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> I hear that they are going to force us to upgrade. Is this true?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hinton
>> via RWP
>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:19 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Cc: Keith Hinton
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Reaper and Windows 10 Support
>>
>> Indeed Chris, it would be awesome to see that. Well, I guess time will tel.
>> I am waiting personally to run Windows Ten here, but some of the things you
>> just mentioned like exclusive core tweeks etc, makes me hopeful. I'm
>> probably not taking advantage of the free upgrade option any time soon.
>>
>> On 10/19/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>   From what I gather according to the info on the cakewalk site,
>>> microslop is supposed to have improved wasapi with w10.
>>>
>>> Along with allowing programs to grab  cores for exclusive use, and
>>> other tweaks to help stop dpc latency spikes, but it's still early
>>> days yet, so maybe after the first major service pack update, we'll
>>> see wasapi all ironed out.
>>>
>>> It would be nice to get something approaching mac's core audio
>>> performance for generic devices on w10.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/19/2015 9:27 PM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>> I run and develop with REAPER on Windows 10. No problems here so far.
>>>> I did see a message on this list the other day about some WASAPI
>>>> problem, though. I use WASAPI here sometimes but only for very rough
>>>> testing when I'm without my proper audio interface. When I have my
>>>> audio interface, I use ASIO.
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20/10/2015 12:16 PM, Keith Hinton via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> I'm just curious.
>>>>> But has anybody had experience with running Reaper so far in a
>>>>> Windows Ten environment?
>>>>> Or is Windows 7 the most suggested operating system for proper
>>>>> compatibility between Osara and Reaper generally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> keith
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