[Rwp] Ivory?

Sun Nov 29 06:33:09 EST 2015

Your very welcome.

On 11/27/2015 11:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thank you for such an absolutely brilliant explanation.  What you say 
> actually does make a lot of sense.  I have tried committing the Ivery 
> tracks, but as you said, all that really is doing is bouncing them all 
> down to an audio track, rather than to a rendered file.  I'm not sure 
> about Reaper, but ProTools doesn't really per sé, have a freezing 
> option.  It kind of does, with committing, but that's about the 
> closest we have.  You commit/bounce to another audio track any 
> selected tracks, then at the same time, you also can have it hide the 
> original source tracks, and even make them inactive.  So I guess, kind 
> of, if you wanna get really technical, it's a form of a freeze.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Ivory?
>
>
>> This is relevant to theory for rendering and bouncing for any DAW so 
>> I'll comment here.
>>
>> With sampling based instruments, especially one as heavy as ivory, 
>> there is a lot of disk i/o going on.
>> With that many samples
>> velocity layers, round robin and such it has to slow down to render 
>> that.
>> A 5400 rpm drive would really bog down a sample library,
>> especially one as huge as ivory, one thing you might consider doing 
>> is to freeze your trak
>> which may takesome time as well,
>> but then when you render your project, it should go normally at that 
>> point.
>>
>> There are also certain synths I have used that just don't render well 
>> with a fast bounce,
>> and this is why in most good DAW's
>> there still exists the ability to do it in real time.
>> Some time certain controlers don't move just like they should,
>> with a fast bounce,
>> I've even had one situation and my experience is mostly with sonar 
>> but this actually happened,
>> I had a complex aray of stuf going on, and when I rendered with the daw,
>> some of the stuf wasn't taking.
>> It would play just fine, but not render with everything like it should.
>>
>> I ended up dumping in real time by playing and recording in to 
>> another set of input tracks,
>> in real time to get it perfect.
>> This is a rare occurance,
>> as most modern vst's and DAW's are designed to sync up together and 
>> get it all right,
>> but it can happen.
>> So it doesn't surprise me that ivory won't go super fast in a render.
>>
>> On 11/26/2015 5:28 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> OK, you are *just!* the guy I need to speak with!
>>>
>>> I can't seem to extract your e-mail address from your message on the 
>>> list, so others, please forgive me.  I have every single intention 
>>> of taking this thread off list past this point.
>>>
>>> Firstly, here is my e-mail address, so we can converse privately.
>>>
>>> clgilland07 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> OK, so yes, I am trying to use Ivory with Reaper, however, I, too, 
>>> am using ProTools on the mac.
>>>
>>> I'm noticing that when I pop Ivory on an insert, even if only one 
>>> stereo instrument track and no more, it makes my offline bouncing go 
>>> to a complete crawl!
>>>
>>> The only thing I can think of is, my internal drive isn't solid 
>>> state, and is only 5400RPM.  I'm not getting any sort of pops, or 
>>> buffer issues though when recording/monitoring in PT, nor am I 
>>> getting any artifacts or latency. The only time it's slow is when 
>>> offline bouncing.  The fasting I can get it to go is like maybe 1.2X.
>>>
>>> I just didn't know if you had this issue as well.  I mean, this is 
>>> literally happening even with a session with only one track all 
>>> total in the whole session, which only has one thing on insert A, 
>>> which is the Ivory plug. It's totally stupid!
>>>
>>> Anyway, let's not clog the reaper list with this any more than 
>>> already, you have my e-mail, so if you or anyone else has any ideas, 
>>> I'd be very very grateful for any suggestions, short of getting an SSD.
>>>
>>> I can do that come next month, but I'd really rather not, if I don't 
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "onlineeagle via RWP" 
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: "onlineeagle" <onlineeagle at googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Ivory?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Christopher, I don't have the concert grand, but I have other 
>>>> Ivory pianos. They all use the same plugin, so my experience will 
>>>> be the same as yours, regardless of which piano. I haven't used it 
>>>> on Windows with Reaper yet. I have used it with ProTools on the 
>>>> mac, however, I can tell you that all the piano options are 
>>>> available as parameters. Therefore you will be able to do 
>>>> everything you need to do with the Shift P parameter window in 
>>>> Reaper. This even includes changing the presets. I was able to 
>>>> change presets this way in ProTools and then save the preset, so 
>>>> that I was able to bring it up again by using the preset part of 
>>>> the FX window. So, good news on the Ivory front I think.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 26 Nov 2015, at 09:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <clgilland07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any experience running Synthogy Ivory American 
>>>>> Concert D on Windows with Reaper?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, I am very curious to know how well it worked for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
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