[Rwp] Creating Items

Justin justinmacleod at hotmail.com
Sat Nov 28 21:33:12 EST 2015 

When I'm starting a project that I know is going to include lots of 
sound effects, I create a scrap project and import all the sounds, then 
start the proper one. this means I don't have to do a lot of unnecessary 
soloing and unsoloing but all the sounds I like are in one place, 
readily accessible and can be played with without any risk of breaking 
the project that matters.

Justin

On 29/11/2015 00:19, Patrick Perdue wrote:
> I generally only use a separate project if I know lots of complex 
> things are going to happen. I'm comfortable enough with general 
> editing in Reaper to usually not bother, though sometimes I'll create 
> a temporary track for editing, then kill it off later when it is no 
> longer needed.
>
> On 11/28/2015 6:31 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Separate projects works fine as a safety net, but you've still got to
>> go through the kind of unnecessary button bashing of saving those
>> separate projects as names you'll recognize when switching between
>> them. If I weren't racing against the clock with a job like this, I'd
>> like to think I'd have enough resolve to work a little more carefully
>> on this in a single project and improve my understanding/efficiency in
>> Reaper as a result. Practice makes perfect, even with OSARA helping
>> you to run faster, smell better etc. JMO, either way will get the job
>> done I guess, just thinking of the long game.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 11/28/15, Snowman <snowman at snowmanradio.com> wrote:
>>> Ah,separate projects,  that's a good idea.  Keeps me from messing 
>>> things up
>>>
>>> unintentionally.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "James Teh" <jamie at nvaccess.org>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 11:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Creating Items
>>>
>>>
>>>> It really shouldn't be much different in OSARA versus ReaAccess. One
>>>> difference I can think of is that ReaAccess unselects all items 
>>>> every time
>>>>
>>>> you move to a new track, which isn't what REAPER does by default (and
>>>> OSARA doesn't change that).
>>>>
>>>> If you want to avoid the potential pitfalls, though, why not just 
>>>> work on
>>>>
>>>> it in a separate project and cut the items between them? REAPER 
>>>> does allow
>>>>
>>>> multiple projects open at once. That way, it's closer to your 
>>>> SoundForge
>>>> workflow, only all within one app.
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> On 28/11/2015 1:16 PM, Snowman wrote:
>>>>> Thanks guys.  So, the solutin is generall to suck the raw file in 
>>>>> as a
>>>>> whole, grab an item and move it elsewheree.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, the thing that makes me a little nervous is what Patrick said 
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>> , "taking care not to make item splits on
>>>>>> other tracks"
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I expect this is different for Osara versus ReAccess, which 
>>>>> I'm still
>>>>>
>>>>> using at the moment.
>>>>> So, the way to make sure splis happen only on the current track? 
>>>>> Up and
>>>>> down arrow first, to make sure only one track is selected? Move to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> desired location and press shift+A to select item under the cursor?
>>>>> Then I can split with s, and only spit  the item on the current 
>>>>> track.
>>>>> That should do it.  No?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Perdue"
>>>>> <patrick at pdaudio.net>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 6:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Creating Items
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember that inserting a file on a track automatically creates 
>>>>>> an item.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keeping this in mind, here is my sort of rambley workflow for 
>>>>>> this sort
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of thing.
>>>>>> Insert the source file you want to use on a track, then use ripple
>>>>>> editing for just that track, taking care not to make item splits on
>>>>>> other tracks, cut and split items as necessary with that track 
>>>>>> soloed,
>>>>>> so I don't have to care about other stuff on the timeline or on 
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> tracks. Then, after making the splits necessary for the project, 
>>>>>> select
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and cut the items you want to use, then paste where they should 
>>>>>> go in
>>>>>> context, killing off items you don't need. Depending on the 
>>>>>> situation,
>>>>>> it sometimes makes sense to glue items so that just the relevant
>>>>>> portion(s) of audio are rendered out as separate takes, and the 
>>>>>> rest can
>>>>>>
>>>>>> be discarded. Sort of a hybrid of destructive and non-destructive
>>>>>> editing processes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, sometimes I just can't be bothered with all that, and go into
>>>>>> SoundForge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aren't options wonderful?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/27/2015 6:15 PM, select all the relevant items and put them 
>>>>>> where
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snowman wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>> Yep, this one is boring too.  I'm trying to figure out the best way
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> doing what I need to do here, and wonder if you can think of a 
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> way to do this.
>>>>>>> The project is one where I have lots of source files sent to me by
>>>>>>> several individuals, and I need to take isolated clips from each 
>>>>>>> file,
>>>>>>> and put them into a nice, coherent reaper time line. So, I imagine
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> track per contributor, with items sparcely scattered along it, with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> clips from that particular person.
>>>>>>> Question is how to do this.  The obvious is to htake sound 
>>>>>>> forge, and
>>>>>>> go cut out the part I want, and save it to a small file. Then, go
>>>>>>> import that file into Reaper at the desired position.
>>>>>>> But, is there a better way?  One that might obviate the need to cut
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> save the small file?
>>>>>>> I wondered if I can just create a blank audio item, and then go 
>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the file name, and the start and length information. But, I can't
>>>>>>> figure out how to do that.
>>>>>>> Of course, you can't do anything convenient like select data in 
>>>>>>> Sound
>>>>>>> Forge, and go paste it into reaper.  That would be too easy.
>>>>>>> Anyway, I would appreciate your thoughts on the best way to do 
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> Thanks a  lot.
>>>>>>>
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