[Rwp] Ivory?

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Fri Nov 27 02:56:56 EST 2015


This is relevant to theory for rendering and bouncing for any DAW so 
I'll comment here.

With sampling based instruments, especially one as heavy as ivory, there 
is a lot of disk i/o going on.
With that many samples
velocity layers, round robin and such it has to slow down to render that.
A 5400 rpm drive would really bog down a sample library,
especially one as huge as ivory, one thing you might consider doing is 
to freeze your trak
which may takesome time as well,
but then when you render your project, it should go normally at that point.

There are also certain synths I have used that just don't render well 
with a fast bounce,
and this is why in most good DAW's
there still exists the ability to do it in real time.
Some time certain controlers don't move just like they should,
with a fast bounce,
I've even had one situation and my experience is mostly with sonar but 
this actually happened,
I had a complex aray of stuf going on, and when I rendered with the daw,
some of the stuf wasn't taking.
It would play just fine, but not render with everything like it should.

I ended up dumping in real time by playing and recording in to another 
set of input tracks,
in real time to get it perfect.
This is a rare occurance,
as most modern vst's and DAW's are designed to sync up together and get 
it all right,
but it can happen.
So it doesn't surprise me that ivory won't go super fast in a render.

On 11/26/2015 5:28 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> OK, you are *just!* the guy I need to speak with!
>
> I can't seem to extract your e-mail address from your message on the 
> list, so others, please forgive me.  I have every single intention of 
> taking this thread off list past this point.
>
> Firstly, here is my e-mail address, so we can converse privately.
>
> clgilland07 at gmail.com
>
> OK, so yes, I am trying to use Ivory with Reaper, however, I, too, am 
> using ProTools on the mac.
>
> I'm noticing that when I pop Ivory on an insert, even if only one 
> stereo instrument track and no more, it makes my offline bouncing go 
> to a complete crawl!
>
> The only thing I can think of is, my internal drive isn't solid state, 
> and is only 5400RPM.  I'm not getting any sort of pops, or buffer 
> issues though when recording/monitoring in PT, nor am I getting any 
> artifacts or latency. The only time it's slow is when offline 
> bouncing.  The fasting I can get it to go is like maybe 1.2X.
>
> I just didn't know if you had this issue as well.  I mean, this is 
> literally happening even with a session with only one track all total 
> in the whole session, which only has one thing on insert A, which is 
> the Ivory plug. It's totally stupid!
>
> Anyway, let's not clog the reaper list with this any more than 
> already, you have my e-mail, so if you or anyone else has any ideas, 
> I'd be very very grateful for any suggestions, short of getting an SSD.
>
> I can do that come next month, but I'd really rather not, if I don't 
> have to.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "onlineeagle via RWP" 
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> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Cc: "onlineeagle" <onlineeagle at googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Ivory?
>
>
>> Hi Christopher, I don't have the concert grand, but I have other 
>> Ivory pianos. They all use the same plugin, so my experience will be 
>> the same as yours, regardless of which piano. I haven't used it on 
>> Windows with Reaper yet. I have used it with ProTools on the mac, 
>> however, I can tell you that all the piano options are available as 
>> parameters. Therefore you will be able to do everything you need to 
>> do with the Shift P parameter window in Reaper. This even includes 
>> changing the presets. I was able to change presets this way in 
>> ProTools and then save the preset, so that I was able to bring it up 
>> again by using the preset part of the FX window. So, good news on the 
>> Ivory front I think.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2015, at 09:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgilland07 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any experience running Synthogy Ivory American 
>>> Concert D on Windows with Reaper?
>>>
>>> If so, I am very curious to know how well it worked for you.
>>>
>>> Chris.
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