[Rwp] New osara keymap

Wed Nov 25 22:23:41 EST 2015

So, if they are cumulative, is there a way to start over?  That could get to 
be a mess.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] New osara keymap

> The thing is is that I believe reaper keymaps are cumulative.
> So if you have some things
> that were already there, they will be there.
> Like when I import Dericks and Gn luca's keymaps my custom actions are 
> always still there.
>
> On 11/25/2015 3:31 PM, Tor Tollhag wrote:
>> Yes.
>> The new one didn't work cause I forgot that I had to import it into
>> reaper to make it work.
>> For some reason it is actually using some of the Swedish keys on my
>> keybord for some stuff, so that actually works.
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-25 17:34 GMT+01:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
>>> If you're unsure you can always re-download the keymap and re-import
>>> it, but of course you know that. :D
>>> Another thing is that the keymap is most suited for the English
>>> keyboard layout. I use that most of the time when I work in Reaper.
>>>
>>> 2015-11-25 12:48 GMT+01:00, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com>:
>>>> If I press Control m I get "mixer view visseble". However the add
>>>> stretch marker key is mapped to Another hotkey, I might've done that
>>>> way earlyer. I'm actually unsure if I'm using the latest keymap now,
>>>> however I can select items by pressing Control shift and errows, and
>>>> that didn't work earlyer.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-25 11:03 GMT+01:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
>>>>> Ah, I see. Glad it works then. :D
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-11-25 10:56 GMT+01:00, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Nevermind, I found the relevant actions and mapped a new hotkey to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> new Osara action. So now I tested this by loading a track into reaper
>>>>>> and adding 2 stretch markers. One on the first beat of a bar and one
>>>>>> on the second.
>>>>>> If I go to the second marker and then move the edit curser either 
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> or forward, and after that press the new osara hotkey the stretch
>>>>>> marker will move to the new position where I left the curser and the
>>>>>> audio between the 2 markers will either compress or stretch depending
>>>>>> on where I've moved it.
>>>>>> This is great.
>>>>>> If I want to have a Project with a track in it where I can change the
>>>>>> tempo freely all I need to do is put stretch markers on every beat.
>>>>>> Now we need to figure out if there's some action that could
>>>>>> automaticly put stretch markers in a Project, cause doing it by hand
>>>>>> could take a while, but this is fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-11-25 10:26 GMT+01:00, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Well just updated both the keymap and Osara and can not see the new
>>>>>>> hotkeys related to stretch markers in there, the hotkey to add 
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be Control m and I can't see it in the actions list, also still not
>>>>>>> sure if we can move the position of stretch markers once we got them
>>>>>>> in a Project. It's strange I can't see the new hotkeys though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-11-25 9:39 GMT+01:00, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Yep, the Osara Github page is still the place. The file name 
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> change presumably so that the download link doesn't have to be
>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>> everytime something in the keymap is modified. So if you grabbed 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> keymap yesterday you surely have the latest one despite its name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-11-25 9:15 GMT+01:00, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>> btw, where do I get the latest keymap? Is it still from the Osara
>>>>>>>>> github page? I downloaded it yesterday and the name was exactly 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same as the keymap I already have, and I actually need the latest
>>>>>>>>> one,
>>>>>>>>> especially cause I can select items on a track with it like I used
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do with reaaccess.
>>>>>>>>> Also I'm actually using Reaper with Osara now for recording
>>>>>>>>> sessions,
>>>>>>>>> so important I get this working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-25 0:01 GMT+01:00, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>:
>>>>>>>>>> I have not worked extensively with stretch markers, only now
>>>>>>>>>> starting
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> experiment, but I do know that even with the standard nudge and
>>>>>>>>>> overlap
>>>>>>>>>> options on the numberpad keys, reaper is pretty powerful in 
>>>>>>>>>> fixing
>>>>>>>>>> timing issues even there.
>>>>>>>>>> I have been able to fix late chords, and drum hits, and make 
>>>>>>>>>> sloppy
>>>>>>>>>> changes sound smooth and more natural with this method, so using
>>>>>>>>>> stretch
>>>>>>>>>> markers would just make it that much better.
>>>>>>>>>> I have a long way to go to be a reaper guru,
>>>>>>>>>> but I feel like I'm finally out of kindergarden 'grin'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/24/2015 3:55 AM, Matej Golian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't done anything with stretch markers yet, but as far as 
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> understand it they serve a different purpose than tempo markers.
>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> understood what I read about them the other day correctly, they
>>>>>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>>>>> you to fix timing issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tempo markers serve to change the tempo or time signature, but
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> stretch markers one should be able to stretch (manipulate a part
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> track between 2 stretch markers) without affecting the rest of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> track. I understand it this way:
>>>>>>>>>>> If you for example have a note that starts too late you can 
>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>> split the track you're working with to make that faulty note a
>>>>>>>>>>> separate item and than nudge this item left to change its start
>>>>>>>>>>> position; or you can stretch the audio between 2 stretch markers
>>>>>>>>>>> thus
>>>>>>>>>>> getting that faulty note exactly where you want it to be. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> use stretch markers or split items depends on you and the audio
>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>> working with - I don't think that these two methods are 
>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>> interchangeable.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't speak from my personal experience, so anyone please
>>>>>>>>>>> correct
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-24 10:20 GMT+01:00, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there. New keymap seems interesting, have to play with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When it comes to stretch markers though I still haven't figured
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> the difference between that and normal tempo markers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also not sure how many stretch markers you would have to add to
>>>>>>>>>>>> let's
>>>>>>>>>>>> say gradually change the tempo in a time selection for x number
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> bars in a Project. I will definetly mess around with this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-11-23 12:57 GMT+01:00, Gianluca Apollaro
>>>>>>>>>>>> <gianluca.apollaro88 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here I am with a new keymap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the main changes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+; View: Move cursor left to grid division
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+Shift+' View: Move cursor right to grid division
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+Win+DELETE Delete all markers (projegt markers)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Jamie we can now work with stretch markers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+M Add stretch marker at cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alt+M OSARA: Move last focused stretch marker to current edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cursor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+; go to previous stretch marker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shift+' go to next stretch marker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win+DELETE Remove all stretch markers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl+DELETE Remove all stretch markers in time selection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can download this new keymap from the following link
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5126017/DGKeyMap03-10-2015.ReaperKeyMap?dl=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Use this keymap only with osara. This new file replaces the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the link is the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same keymap is already available from within the osara
>>>>>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope you like it and find it useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gianluca from Italy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> SkypeID: gianluca8815
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