[Rwp] Understanding Envelope Visibility + Should Something Be Done in Osara?

[Matej Golian]

Will do so. :D

2015-11-22 20:06 GMT+01:00, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com>:
> So far as I understand it, the API doesn't seem to output any
> specifics of what track an envelope belongs to. But hey, there's every
> chance I'm understanding things wrong. Jamie will know for sure, so
> get it on GitHub.
>
> Scott
>
> On 11/22/15, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the valuable info, Scott. Now I finally get it. :D
>> I thought about it more and I will certainly make a Github request
>> sometime soon. I thought of an alternative solution. Maybe it can't be
>> done this way either, but it's worth a try. I wonder whether Osara
>> could potentially identify which track a particular envelope belongs
>> to, if it was selected. If it could, perhaps an Osara configuration
>> option could be added to also announce the track name when cycling
>> through all the visible envelopes. I guess this would be more than
>> enough. Maybe it's the same thing as cycling only between envelopes of
>> a particular track and it therefore might not work, but I guess Jamie
>> will have to be the judge of that. :D
>>
>> 2015-11-22 18:36 GMT+01:00, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com>:
>>> So far as I know, there's no info provided by the Reaper API that
>>> OSARA can use to display envelopes specific to the track you're
>>> currently on, hence why OSARA cycles envelopes for all tracks at the
>>> moment. I think it's worth opening as an issue on GitHub though. Worst
>>> that might happen is that Jamie will look into it, explain why it
>>> can't be done if he can't find a way to hack around the limitation,
>>> and close the issue. Even if that happens, you'll have a bit more
>>> insight into the problem and could potentially take that to the Reaper
>>> developers and ask for specific improvements to their API in this
>>> area.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 11/22/15, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks a lot. Now I have one more thing to experiment with. :D
>>>> Hope someone can say more about this though as it is still very unclear
>>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-22 15:32 GMT+01:00, onlineeagle via RWP
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>> Hi, I am very new to this this, but in answer to your first question,
>>>>> I
>>>>> believe Shipt O will only show the envelopes on the track you're
>>>>> focused
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2015, at 11:22, Matej Golian <matej.golian at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi again folks,
>>>>>> it's nothing urgent, because I don't need to work with envelopes yet,
>>>>>> but I'll most likely do something with them in the future. Regardless
>>>>>> I'm trying to understand how they work.
>>>>>> Could someone please explain to me how toggling envelope visibility
>>>>>> works? Specifically, I'd like to know the relationship between
>>>>>> selecting tracks and switching between active envelopes. The thing I
>>>>>> can't understand is this.
>>>>>> Say I have a project with 2 tracks. I move to the first track, press
>>>>>> ctrl+alt+v and than verify with ctrl+l that the volume envelope is
>>>>>> indeed active.
>>>>>> Next I move to the second track and press ctrl+alt+p to make the pan
>>>>>> envelope visible. This works as well, but I can't understand why
>>>>>> ctrl+l always switches between the volume and pan envelopes
>>>>>> regardless
>>>>>> of the currently focused track. I thought that it would only give me
>>>>>> the volume envelope when the first track has focus and only the pan
>>>>>> envelope when the second track has focus. So, does ctrl+l switch
>>>>>> between envelopes across all tracks or am I going about this all
>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>> My second question is, how well do envelopes work with the new
>>>>>> focusable master track (switching, toggling and so on)? Does it
>>>>>> already behave like any other track when it has focus using Osara or
>>>>>> does further 'envelope support' have to be added? Also would it be
>>>>>> useful if the master track responded to the Track: View Envelopes for
>>>>>> Current Track action or is this irrelevant in case of the master
>>>>>> track?
>>>>>> I would file an issue On Github, but first I have to understand how
>>>>>> envelopes work. Or maybe someone who frequently uses them could do it
>>>>>> instead. Just a thought.
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> Matej
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