[Rwp] To Quantize or not to Quantize - that Is the(Non-technical(Question

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, but when you're the one recording the percussion to start with... LOL!

Chris.

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Subject: Re: [Rwp] To Quantize or not to Quantize - that Is 
the(Non-technical(Question


>I find my timing is better when i play to a drum track of some sort instead 
>of just metronome. perhaps do the drums then record or record the other 
>parts once thats in place? Just a thought.
>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP 
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>
>> You know...
>>
>> I agree.  I think it really just depends on the sound you're looking for. 
>> I tend to do a lot of quantization, and I do mean, probably wayyyyyyy! 
>> overkill, but the thing is, for me, it's a must.  Even after about 5 
>> years of major major practice, I still find that I am very very unsteady 
>> at times. I don't know why, but I just never seem to be able to follow 
>> the constant tempo, even with a metronome.  So, for me, it's a must!  For 
>> some however, they might be steady enough that it's not an issue.
>>
>> I think ultimately, it just depends on the song, the sound you want, and 
>> like you said... how humanized do you want it to sound over all.
>>
>> Also, remember, I'm not sure if Reaper can do this, as I'm  more a 
>> ProTools guy, but there should be a way to only quantize a certain 
>> selection of audio.  So, in other words, rather than quantizing the whole 
>> track, or for that mind, every track, just pick the parts which actually 
>> need that little push.  You may find that if it's minor... no pun 
>> intended... enough, it may be better then to just take the few beats that 
>> are off, and nudge them manually forward or back on the time ruler.
>>
>> Hope that makes sense.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matej Golian via RWP" 
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>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:02 AM
>> Subject: [Rwp] To Quantize or not to Quantize - that Is the 
>> (Non-technical(Question
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> this time I don't really need any technical advice, but I'd be eager
>>> to know how you approach the concept of quantization. I know that this
>>> is a general recording question and so if you think that this is not
>>> the right place to ask this, just ignore this message.
>>> So, from what I gather quantization is very common in today's
>>> recordings. I understand that it's more frequent in certain genres
>>> than others, but I guess that it's safe to say that everyone working
>>> with music has to know something about it. Quantization should be used
>>> to fix timing issues, so that sloppy recordings don't sound sloppy or
>>> so that they sound at least less sloppy if possible. So far so good.
>>> But the question is: how much to quantize?
>>> I know that this is subjective, just as everything, but the general
>>> opinion is not to overquantize. In other words, if I for example
>>> record something as MIDI and than make every note absolutely perfect
>>> (in terms of length and position), the result should sound robotic.
>>> But is this really so?
>>> Obviously, whether one perceives something as robotic or not depends
>>> on a number of factors, but I get the feeling that in some cases it
>>> makes no perceivable difference whether you quantize or not. Imagine a
>>> recording of only 8th notes at 200 BPM for instance. Maybe it's only
>>> me and my unseasoned ears, but it seems to me that human ears have a
>>> tendency to perceive things as much more regular than what they
>>> actualy are - unless the recording is extremely sloppy they in my
>>> uneducated opinion seem to compensate for minor imperfections - thanks
>>> to or because of their imperfect nature.
>>> My point is, if I slow down a fast recording, I'm able to tell how
>>> much it has been quantized. If it's too perfect I might say to my self
>>> that this is too perfect to be a human, but does this really matter in
>>> the end?
>>> Sorry for the essay. I started thinking more about quantization,
>>> because I'm finally working on my first recording and I quantized a
>>> part of it, but not because I thought it sounded bad, but because I
>>> had the chance to easily do it.
>>> So my personal conclusion is to quantize up to the point where you
>>> perceive something as perfect (to keep it human), but all in all this
>>> topic still puzzles me.
>>> Currious to know what you think.
>>> Matej
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