[Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability

[Jim Snowbarger]

Yep, whatever gets the job done.  The job is the real thing.


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From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:27 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability

I know I was being overly cheeky 'grin'.

yeh, all these screen-readers suck sometimes.

I'm a realist, I use what ever gets the job done,




On 3/18/2015 3:58 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
> Yeah,  everything sucks but NVDA.  Everybody here knows that.  I wish 
> you would tell that to NVDA and how it sucks with Outlook 2013 on my
machine.
> Down arrow through the message list, and hear the column headers 
> repeated before each message.  Very nice.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> Belle via RWP
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:54 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about 
> accessability
>
> Yeh, my experience is the same concerning a much simpler program 
> lightscribe simple labeler.
> Works with QT and works best with NVDA.
>
> I'm finding most things seem to work better with NVDA these days, and 
> Jaws and window-eyes are sucking worse and worse.
>
>
>
> On 3/17/2015 6:39 PM, Patrick Perdue via RWP wrote:
>> QT accessibility has changed even in the last year or so.
>> In many cases, developers can simply compile with the latest QT 
>> libraries, and by default, gain more accessibility without trying.
>> It's still not amazing at it's best, though NVDA reads QT apps out of 
>> the box better than any Windows screen reader, as far as I'm aware.
>> In terms of audio stuff I use every day, Izotope RX is the best 
>> example I can think of. I can get around most of the interface with 
>> NVDA without any kind of scripting, though it is a bit odd, and when 
>> I last tried with Jaws, it was mostly useless.
>>
>> This tool might help, though as many have said, this has yet to be 
>> seen in real-world applications.
>>
>> On 3/17/2015 4:55 PM, Rusty Perez via RWP wrote:
>>> Yes, I have a very good example of this.
>>> I purchased a BeatBuddy last year. This is a guitar pedal style drum 
>>> machine. The content managing software is completely inaccessible. 
>>> It was developed in QT which I understand has accessibility 
>>> features, but they were totally ignored. So I'm hoping that this 
>>> solution might help.
>>>
>>> To be honest, the description makes it sound as though this could be 
>>> dangerous technology in the hands of the right people, but I'm glad 
>>> it can help us.
>>>
>>> Anyway, we'll see!
>>> Rusty
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> I heard about this over on midimag.
>>>>
>>>> We'll have to see how it goes.
>>>>
>>>> The issue mostly these days is that developer tools that can write 
>>>> cross platform ie, both mac and windows can be made a lot more 
>>>> accessible but no dev wants to code their stuff twice.
>>>>
>>>> So these third party dev tools don't do it in a way which promotes 
>>>> the accessibility so we're left screen-scraping.
>>>> instead of having programming objects to get hold of.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm just really curious how this thing is gonna work to get hold 
>>>> of information when there are no programatical objects exposed, 
>>>> well, you know someplace along the line.
>>>> that pretty picture turns in to an instruction set, and issues a 
>>>> command, so maybe the found a way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/17/2015 2:58 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Rusty,
>>>>> I haven't heard of this.  But, take the plunge, and let us know if 
>>>>> your system still works afterword.  <grin>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Rusty Perez via RWP
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:45 PM
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Subject: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about 
>>>>> accessability
>>>>>
>>>>> Following is a link to a demonstration of a program called AT 
>>>>> Prime which calls itself an accessability optimizer for windows.
>>>>> www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=12436
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds really intriguing basically digging deep in to windows 
>>>>> to pull information normally unavailable to windows screen 
>>>>> readers.
>>>>> I'm hoping it will open up a world of unaccessible plugins ETC.
>>>>>
>>>>> rusty
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