[Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability

Jim Snowbarger snowman at snowmanradio.com
Wed Mar 18 18:41:05 EDT 2015


Not quite the same, but most of the way there.
When it comes to color detection, and making sense of the meaning of color,
Which is sometimes the only clue you have, things like that,  AHK comes up a
bit short.  But,  it's a worthy tool.


-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Perdue
via RWP
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 4:06 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability

Ditto with AutoHotKey, without the Jaws requirement.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP
<rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> Rusty,
> For your BeatBuddy, if you are using JAWS, you can usually make 
> progress with that kind of totally graphical interface with
HotSpotClicker.
> But, you will also usually need a sightling to help puzzle out the 
> screen originally.
> It's not the best way to gain access.  But, when nothing else works, 
> it becomes the best by default.
> But, JAWS is required.
> \
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> Belle via RWP
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 3:50 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about 
> accessability
> 
> From the demo I could hear, some dumb chick was talking on her cell 
> phone and all the noise you could barely here the guy talking but it 
> sounds like it just makes already accessible stuff more useable, ie if 
> it's not accessible via object nav or advanced screen reader methods, 
> then it wouldn't be anyway.
> 
> I hope I'm wrong.
> 
> 
>> On 3/17/2015 3:55 PM, Rusty Perez via RWP wrote:
>> Yes, I have a very good example of this.
>> I purchased a BeatBuddy last year. This is a guitar pedal style drum 
>> machine. The content managing software is completely inaccessible. It 
>> was developed in QT which I understand has accessibility features, 
>> but they were totally ignored. So I'm hoping that this solution might 
>> help.
>> 
>> To be honest, the description makes it sound as though this could be 
>> dangerous technology in the hands of the right people, but I'm glad 
>> it can help us.
>> 
>> Anyway, we'll see!
>> Rusty
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/17/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> I heard about this over on midimag.
>>> 
>>> We'll have to see how it goes.
>>> 
>>> The issue mostly these days is that developer tools that can write 
>>> cross platform ie, both mac and windows can be made a lot more 
>>> accessible but no dev wants to code their stuff twice.
>>> 
>>> So these third party dev tools don't do it in a way which promotes 
>>> the accessibility so we're left screen-scraping.
>>> instead of having programming objects to get hold of.
>>> 
>>> So I'm just really curious how this thing is gonna work to get hold 
>>> of information when there are no programatical objects exposed, 
>>> well, you know someplace along the line.
>>> that pretty picture turns in to an instruction set, and issues a 
>>> command, so maybe the found a way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/17/2015 2:58 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
>>>> Rusty,
>>>> I haven't heard of this.  But, take the plunge, and let us know if 
>>>> your system still works afterword.  <grin>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Rusty 
>>>> Perez via RWP
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:45 PM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability
>>>> 
>>>> Following is a link to a demonstration of a program called AT Prime 
>>>> which calls itself an accessability optimizer for windows.
>>>> www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=12436
>>>> 
>>>> It sounds really intriguing basically digging deep in to windows to 
>>>> pull information normally unavailable to windows screen readers.
>>>> I'm hoping it will open up a world of unaccessible plugins ETC.
>>>> 
>>>> rusty
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