[Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability

Rusty Perez rustys.lists at gmail.com
Tue Mar 17 20:06:24 EDT 2015


This particular app, the content manager for the BeatBuddy crashes
when I try using any of the normal navigation keys arrows or tab. I
should probably go back and see if they've updated at all, but though
they give lip service to accessability they had a hole heap of other
things ahead of it. So, if the latest builds gave some accessability
with qt, something was going on because I had none in the BeatBuddy
app.

rusty

On 3/17/15, Patrick Perdue via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> QT accessibility has changed even in the last year or so.
> In many cases, developers can simply compile with the latest QT
> libraries, and by default, gain more accessibility without trying.
> It's still not amazing at it's best, though NVDA reads QT apps out of
> the box better than any Windows screen reader, as far as I'm aware.
> In terms of audio stuff I use every day, Izotope RX is the best example
> I can think of. I can get around most of the interface with NVDA without
> any kind of scripting, though it is a bit odd, and when I last tried
> with Jaws, it was mostly useless.
>
> This tool might help, though as many have said, this has yet to be seen
> in real-world applications.
>
> On 3/17/2015 4:55 PM, Rusty Perez via RWP wrote:
>> Yes, I have a very good example of this.
>> I purchased a BeatBuddy last year. This is a guitar pedal style drum
>> machine. The content managing software is completely inaccessible. It
>> was developed in QT which I understand has accessibility features, but
>> they were totally ignored. So I'm hoping that this solution might
>> help.
>>
>> To be honest, the description makes it sound as though this could be
>> dangerous technology in the hands of the right people, but I'm glad it
>> can help us.
>>
>> Anyway, we'll see!
>> Rusty
>>
>>
>> On 3/17/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> I heard about this over on midimag.
>>>
>>> We'll have to see how it goes.
>>>
>>> The issue mostly these days is that developer tools that can write cross
>>> platform
>>> ie, both mac and windows can be made a lot more accessible but no dev
>>> wants to code their stuff twice.
>>>
>>> So these third party dev tools don't do it in a way which promotes the
>>> accessibility
>>> so we're left screen-scraping.
>>> instead of having programming objects to get hold of.
>>>
>>> So I'm just really curious how this thing is gonna work to get hold of
>>> information when there are no programatical
>>> objects exposed,
>>> well, you know someplace along the line.
>>> that pretty picture turns in to an instruction set, and issues a
>>> command,
>>> so maybe the found a way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/2015 2:58 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
>>>> Rusty,
>>>> I haven't heard of this.  But, take the plunge, and let us know if your
>>>> system still works afterword.  <grin>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
>>>> Perez
>>>> via RWP
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 2:45 PM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: [Rwp] Slightly OT but maybe GREAT news about accessability
>>>>
>>>> Following is a link to a demonstration of a program called AT Prime
>>>> which
>>>> calls itself an accessability optimizer for windows.
>>>> www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=12436
>>>>
>>>> It sounds really intriguing basically digging deep in to windows to
>>>> pull
>>>> information normally unavailable to windows screen readers.
>>>> I'm hoping it will open up a world of unaccessible plugins ETC.
>>>>
>>>> rusty
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