[Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer
Alex H.
linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Mon Mar 16 09:54:42 EDT 2015
Hi Oriol,
I use a ton of stuff, but my favorites have to be Magix Vandal for an
all-in-one guitar amp and cabinet sound, and Recabinet and Vadim's
plugins at pvdhp7.wordpress.com for a separated amp/cab setup.
Too bad Vadim only has 32-bit windows builds, no 64-bit or Osx.
If you want true 64-bit, tseaudio.com and igniteamps.com have
excellent sims. The Emissary is probably my favorite for clean or
death rattling tone, does it all.
It really depends on the sound and character you want/need for a mix
also. Certain amp plugs do better than others modeling the same sound.
Trial and error is a big part of it.
Alex
On 3/16/15, Oriol Gómez <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> I have a somewhat unrelated question for Alex.
> What do you use for guitar amps? I heard your guitars and they sound
> awesome, do you have any hints for me? :)
>
> On 3/15/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Well, I hope when he was in the litter box he stirred the litter
>> rhythmically 'grin'.
>>
>> On 3/15/2015 2:36 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>> LOL when I had a cat, he was always in the litterbox when I used
>>> Addictive Drums, and always curling up by me when I was messing with
>>> Superior. So that's two cats who dig Superior. Hahahaha
>>>
>>> As for Superior vs EZDrummer, I just went with SD because it loads all
>>> of Toontrack's various libraries, both Superior and EZX stuff. That's
>>> it really.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 3/15/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> :D Who knows, maybe you've just found the answer. They say for example
>>>> that flowers like music. Why not animals then? I personally think that
>>>> they do and if it really is so perhaps their musical taste can develop
>>>> as well. In that case, however, I'd be currious to know how Alex found
>>>> out what his cat's VST drum preference is. :D
>>>>
>>>> 2015-03-15 18:34 GMT+01:00, Scott Chesworth via RWP
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>> Something really insightful, such as "my cat prefers the sound of
>>>>> Superior" perhaps. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/15/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It would be fun, if Alex gave us a totally different reason than we
>>>>>> assume.
>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-03-15 18:05 GMT+01:00, Scott Chesworth via RWP
>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>> I haven't played with Superior, but so far as I can tell, the plugin
>>>>>>> interface when running in bridged mode is very similar to EZ Drummer
>>>>>>> 2, in that we can swap, save and load presets from there. Given the
>>>>>>> way Toontrack usually do things, I'd be surprised if the presets are
>>>>>>> coded drastically differently between the two products, but I'll
>>>>>>> report back once I've taken a look at some EZ Drummer ones. Superior
>>>>>>> has more detailed libraries and more flexibility overall though,
>>>>>>> guessing that's why Alex chose to go with that instead of EZ
>>>>>>> Drummer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/15/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, ROBIN, in the end this thread ended up to be a Superior Drummer
>>>>>>>> one, so you should take a look at "Superior Drummer 2". This is not
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> say that you can't take a look at EZDrummer, but the tutorial Alex
>>>>>>>> made for us is for Superior. I'm guessing it's because Superior
>>>>>>>> Drummer works better with screen readers out of the box.
>>>>>>>> Hope that helped.
>>>>>>>> Matej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2015-03-15 13:52 GMT+01:00, ROBIN Alexis via RWP
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very interresting and excellent in term of capabilities. I
>>>>>>>>> consedering
>>>>>>>>> more and more switching major part of my projects in midi.
>>>>>>>>> Concerning EzDrummer, is it the V2?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 09/03/2015 21:11, Alex H. via RWP a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> It's not necessary to begin with, but yes, I'd recommend down the
>>>>>>>>>> road
>>>>>>>>>> getting familiar with quantizing and things. You don't need to
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> exact MIDI notes or anything though if you don't want to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex!
>>>>>>>>>>> I installed my MIDI keyboard and i can play reaSynth with it!
>>>>>>>>>>> hee
>>>>>>>>>>> hee!
>>>>>>>>>>> My one last question before i get superior drummer and possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> metal
>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>>> Do i have to learn midi editing and that kind of stuff, to be
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> quantize drums? you know how crazy metal tracks can get.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/2015 9:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that should work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not seen a MIDI controller in my life!; I think i saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard-like thing and they did call that a MIDI controller.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Have a Korg keyboard here, that according to its website you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install a midi driver for it, and It will act as a MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> controller.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would that be good for drumming? or I need something that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your awesome tips!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hadi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/2015 6:57 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi, all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the kind words on the podcast. Glad to know it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informative.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On guitar editing, I'm thinking of doing that very thing. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing a music-based demo cast would be more difficult than it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guitar general tips/tricks is on my list, and perhaps a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to give drum tracks realism and humanity, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hadi, Superior Drummer is a VST instrument and uses MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trigger the samples. You can buy a simple MIDI controller for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundred bucks and start diving in. Before you know it, it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature to hammer out a fill or what-have-you. Of course, MIDI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instruments aren't just limited to drums. I often relax with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> softsynths and unwind that way. Not recording anything, just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jamming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That Potcast is freaking awesome. The most fact that I like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Alex goes through stuff fast enough for me to not lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually follow up with things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question guys. I want to get this drum VST, but how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually play it? do i have to write notes? or you do it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of controller? I want to play some drums alongside of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, I hope some day you spare some of your time and put up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potcast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about general tips and tricks for guitar editting in reaper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use reaper to practice live; but it wouldn't hurt to do some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recordings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for fun too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know, all that trimming, cutting extra noise out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nudgin/looping/awesome stuff you do for editting electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/9/2015 5:25 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks man. Yeah I kept chuckling listening back to it and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording. It's just like, bam! LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/8/15, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Verbiest, snare, ever!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. Very valuable insight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/8/15, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All righty, Part2 is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/SD_P2.mp3?dl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow just wow... I didn't think that you'd get at it so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work so far. I can't wait for all the killer stuf in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-06 1:36 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's here! Part 1 covers the pretty basic stuff. Part 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by early next week at the latest, I expect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/SD_P1.mp3?dl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, and feel free to ping me if you got a question
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if anything is unclear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds absolutely fantastic. Thanks for taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your valuable know-how with us. This mailing list is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-05 19:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matej,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've started work on the podcast, and it looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tidy two part series. I'll talk about multitrack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mixing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting tracks to do what you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I forgot to mention I'll be covering how to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paths
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries without sight using the registry. It's not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it sounds :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/15, Matej Golian via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris, thumbs up. :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, that's exactly how I'd like to use it. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routing within reaper, but I must have missed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no sound when playing back MIDI. I guess setting up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the plugin is the missing link in my case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'insert virtual instrument on new track' option the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back correctly, but than again, that's not the kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after, because it inserts too many tracks and I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least currently) which drum each of those tracks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-05 9:56 GMT+01:00, Chris Belle via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best way to encourage a man is to cash him up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:55 PM, Matej Golian via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Alex. A podcast on this subject would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surely listen to it. Patrik, glad to know that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside me interested in this. Perhaps this will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the podcast. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, Alex, I don't know, I'm very new to Reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DAWs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let alone EZDrummer or SD, but I can imagine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic is - especially from the screen reader user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so, if you decide to do it, couldn't it be in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> podcast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series? Maybe that would make things more simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you wouldn't have to explain everything in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed both EZDrummer and SD (don't ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and from what I have tested so far I must say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible option of the two. Sadly, however, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do with it. I have 'discovered' the Load/Save
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can select between the installed expansion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you can select the drum kit, but that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see things here like 'Kick 1', 'Kick 1 Right' or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C1'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on 'Kick 1' for example, I get a menu with some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drums, but hardly all of them. I see that 'C1' in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kick drum sound corresponds to the C1 note.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to access the mixer, right? If for nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select multichannel output. Is that correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-04 21:31 GMT+01:00, joão victor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hey sorry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do for exit tolist?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: Patrick Perdue via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data: Quarta, 04 de Março de 2015 14:40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I, for one, would be interested in how you do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of trying Superior Drummer myself, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a v-kit/pads/triggers of some sort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use NVDA full time. Using SD is possible with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more work, especially if you wish to make your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound of them. I eventually want to do a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> podcast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a comprehensive thing to summarize without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boring to listen to. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, There's an AHK script that works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of, though I had little luck and so use my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I need done in the plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply, Alex. And may ask you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use when working with the plugin (NVDA or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaws)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I found some commercially available HSC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on one site, but honestly I'd only buy them if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neccesary. I'm tired of Jaws, I'm trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I'd like to leave Jaws out of it if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-01 20:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a bear, but possible. I use it regularly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use Superior Drummer with the EZDrummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am after some good drum VSTs. I had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Youtube
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos yesterday and I like the way some of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expansions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer sound. Soundwise I'd say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after. But I just don't know whether the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen reader users. In some of the videos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface, but that might not neccesarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask... Does someone here have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have read a couple of threads in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I should be able to set up EzDrummer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side, but I'm afraid that working with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a completely different issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks!
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