[Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer

Alex H. linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com
Mon Mar 9 16:11:14 EDT 2015


It's not necessary to begin with, but yes, I'd recommend down the road
getting familiar with quantizing and things. You don't need to know
exact MIDI notes or anything though if you don't want to.

Alex

On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex!
> I installed my MIDI keyboard and i can play reaSynth with it! hee hee!
> My one last question before i get superior drummer and possibly metal
> machine
> Do i have to learn midi editing and that kind of stuff, to be able to
> quantize drums? you know how crazy metal tracks can  get.
>
> On 3/9/2015 9:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>> Yes that should work.
>>
>> On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex
>>> I have not seen a MIDI controller in my life!; I think i saw once a
>>> keyboard-like thing and they did  call that a MIDI controller.
>>> I Have a Korg keyboard here, that according to its website you can
>>> install a midi driver for it, and It will act as a MIDI controller.
>>> Would that be good for drumming? or I need something that is not a
>>> keyboard.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your awesome tips!
>>> Cheers
>>> Hadi
>>> On 3/9/2015 6:57 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>> Hi Hadi, all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the kind words on the podcast. Glad to know it was
>>>> informative.
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> On guitar editing, I'm thinking of doing that very thing. I thought
>>>> doing a music-based demo cast would be more difficult than it is.
>>>> Guitar general tips/tricks is on my list, and perhaps a discussion on
>>>> how to give drum tracks realism and humanity, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Hadi, Superior Drummer is a VST instrument and uses MIDI notes to
>>>> trigger the samples. You can buy a simple MIDI controller for under a
>>>> hundred bucks and start diving in. Before you know it, it'll be second
>>>> nature to hammer out a fill or what-have-you. Of course, MIDI
>>>> instruments aren't just limited to drums. I often relax with various
>>>> softsynths and unwind that way. Not recording anything, just jamming.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 3/9/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> That Potcast is freaking awesome. The most fact that I like about is
>>>>> that Alex goes through stuff fast enough for me to not lose interest
>>>>> and
>>>>> actually follow up with things.
>>>>> I have a question guys. I want to get this drum VST, but how do you
>>>>> actually play it? do i have to write notes? or you do it with some
>>>>> sort
>>>>> of controller? I want to play some drums alongside of my electric
>>>>> guitar.
>>>>> Alex, I hope some day you spare some of your time and put up a potcast
>>>>> about general tips and tricks for guitar editting in reaper. I  mostly
>>>>> use reaper to practice live; but it wouldn't hurt to do some
>>>>> recordings
>>>>> for fun too.
>>>>> You know, all that trimming, cutting extra noise out,
>>>>> nudgin/looping/awesome stuff you do for editting electric guitar
>>>>> tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/2015 5:25 AM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks man. Yeah I kept chuckling listening back to it and while
>>>>>> recording. It's just like, bam! LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/8/15, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Verbiest, snare, ever!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing. Very valuable insight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/8/15, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All righty, Part2 is here.
>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/SD_P2.mp3?dl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/6/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Wow just wow... I didn't think that you'd get at it so quickly.
>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>> work so far. I can't wait for all the killer stuf in part 2. :D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-06 1:36 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's here! Part 1 covers the pretty basic stuff. Part 2 should be
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>> by early next week at the latest, I expect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link.
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/SD_P1.mp3?dl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, and feel free to ping me if you got a question on
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> if anything is unclear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds absolutely fantastic. Thanks for taking the time to
>>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>> your valuable know-how with us. This mailing list is totally
>>>>>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-05 19:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Matej,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've started work on the podcast, and it looks like it'll be a
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>>>>> and tidy two part series. I'll talk about multitrack mixing and
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting tracks to do what you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I forgot to mention I'll be covering how to add paths to
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries without sight using the registry. It's not as
>>>>>>>>>>>> complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> it sounds :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris, thumbs up. :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, that's exactly how I'd like to use it. I have tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> routing within reaper, but I must have missed something,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no sound when playing back MIDI. I guess setting up the track
>>>>>>>>>>>>> routing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the plugin is the missing link in my case. When I use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'insert virtual instrument on new track' option the sounds are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> played
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back correctly, but than again, that's not the kind of setup
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after, because it inserts too many tracks and I'm unable to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least currently) which drum each of those tracks corresponds
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-05 9:56 GMT+01:00, Chris Belle via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best way to encourage a man is to cash him up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:55 PM, Matej Golian via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Alex. A podcast on this subject would be definitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cool,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surely listen to it. Patrik, glad to know that there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beside me interested in this. Perhaps this will encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the podcast. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, Alex, I don't know, I'm very new to Reaper and DAWs in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let alone EZDrummer or SD, but I can imagine how immense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic is - especially from the screen reader user point of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so, if you decide to do it, couldn't it be in the form of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> podcast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series? Maybe that would make things more simple for you as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you wouldn't have to explain everything in one go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed both EZDrummer and SD (don't ask how I got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and from what I have tested so far I must say that SD is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible option of the two. Sadly, however, I still don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do with it. I have 'discovered' the Load/Save menu, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can select between the installed expansion libraries and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you can select the drum kit, but that's about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see things here like 'Kick 1', 'Kick 1 Right' or 'C1'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on 'Kick 1' for example, I get a menu with some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drums, but hardly all of them. I see that 'C1' in this case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the kick drum sound corresponds to the C1 note. But what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to access the mixer, right? If for nothing else, at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select multichannel output. Is that correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-04 21:31 GMT+01:00, joão victor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hey sorry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do for exit tolist?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: Patrick Perdue via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data: Quarta, 04 de Março de 2015 14:40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I, for one, would be interested in how you do what you do,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of trying Superior Drummer myself, and possibly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a v-kit/pads/triggers of some sort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use NVDA full time. Using SD is possible with NVDA, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more work, especially if you wish to make your own kits or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customize
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sound of them. I eventually want to do a podcast on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a comprehensive thing to summarize without it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and boring to listen to. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside, There's an AHK script that works with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drummer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of, though I had little luck and so use my own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> methods
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I need done in the plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply, Alex. And may ask you which screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use when working with the plugin (NVDA or Jaws)? The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I found some commercially available HSC hotspot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on one site, but honestly I'd only buy them if they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neccesary. I'm tired of Jaws, I'm trying to convert to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why I'd like to leave Jaws out of it if possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-03-01 20:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a bear, but possible. I use it regularly, well more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use Superior Drummer with the EZDrummer extensions, no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am after some good drum VSTs. I had a listen to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Youtube
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos yesterday and I like the way some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expansions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer sound. Soundwise I'd say that EzDrummer is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after. But I just don't know whether the plugin is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen reader users. In some of the videos they mention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface, but that might not neccesarily mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask... Does someone here have any experiences with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have read a couple of threads in the official Reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I should be able to set up EzDrummer, at least on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side, but I'm afraid that working with the plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a completely different issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks!
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