[Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer

Thu Mar 5 01:17:15 EST 2015

Yes, I set up the track routing within the preset itself though, and
load it like that, and use a track folder to group everything.

Alex

On 3/5/15, Patrick Perdue via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> So, do you use one instance of the plugin with multiple outputs, sending to
> individual tracks with the routing matrix?
> I'm pretty sure I know what that would look like, at least from Reaper's
> perspective. I've never actually used a multi-output plugin in that way,
> though.
> I think I would also prefer mixing that way, because you could then use
> whatever is available for any part of the kit.
>
>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott and all,
>>
>> Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get going on a plan to tackle this.
>> It'll most definitely be at least two parts. Editing preset files is
>> probably enough to talk about for an hour. Hahahaha :) You can, with
>> some experimenting, find different kit pieces and of course adjust
>> volumes. All that stuff will be covered.
>>
>> As far as the mixer and effects in SD goes, I don't use them often.
>> The preset files themselves (.s20 file extension) are very daunting to
>> do more than simple routing and effects (e.g., put a comp and EQ on a
>> snare). If needed, I can kind of try and cover it, but I much prefer
>> using individual tracks per drum, allowing the kit to be mixed with
>> external plugins. It's just easier to tweak tones on the fly, instead
>> of constantly going into a file to make changes and so on.
>>
>> I have the Metal Foundry presets in .rpl format as well, because that
>> entire thing is inaccessible. Fortunately, the EZX extensions are
>> easier to get the factory presets loaded up.
>>
>> For background, I use a MIDI keyboard to track drums, and for the kind
>> of things I do, a bit of MIDI overdubbing to get all the sections
>> together instead of trying to do a blast beat with two hands. LOL. I
>> don't know much about MIDI assignments with SD, though that looks
>> pretty easy to change looking at the preset file in front of me.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Alex
>>
>> On 3/4/15, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> One more waiting in line for your rundown Alex. No pressure, but... do
>>> it!
>>> :P
>>>
>>> At the moment I'm using EZ Drummer 2, because I don't have the spare
>>> cash kicking around to invest in SD without knowing whether I'll be
>>> able to get enough control in a way that won't drive me insane and sap
>>> the creativity. With EZ Drummer, I can use NVDA flat review to at
>>> least get to the menu to choose presets and work from there.
>>> Unfortunately, the automation controls we can access by hitting
>>> Shift+P on the track are just generically labeled as control 1 through
>>> 8, which isn't great, but random fiddling does make changes. Most of
>>> the time though, I'm just going with a preset that sounds close-ish to
>>> what I had in mind, bouncing out the audio when I'm done with the drum
>>> part, and treating them like real drums when it comes to mix. It's not
>>> ideal, and I'd probably use a shed load less system resources if I
>>> could take care of some of these changes within EZ Drummer or SD
>>> itself, so I'd definitely be interested in learning about how you do
>>> your thing.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 3/4/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Alex. A podcast on this subject would be definitely cool, I'd
>>>> surely listen to it. Patrik, glad to know that there is someone else
>>>> beside me interested in this. Perhaps this will encourage Alex to do
>>>> the podcast. :)
>>>> BTW, Alex, I don't know, I'm very new to Reaper and DAWs in general
>>>> and let alone EZDrummer or SD, but I can imagine how immense this
>>>> topic is - especially from the screen reader user point of view - and
>>>> so, if you decide to do it, couldn't it be in the form of a podcast
>>>> series? Maybe that would make things more simple for you as well,
>>>> because you wouldn't have to explain everything in one go.
>>>> I have installed both EZDrummer and SD (don't ask how I got them :) )
>>>> and from what I have tested so far I must say that SD is the more
>>>> accessible option of the two. Sadly, however, I still don't know what
>>>> to do with it. I have 'discovered' the Load/Save menu, the menu where
>>>> you can select between the installed expansion libraries and the menu
>>>> where you can select the drum kit, but that's about it.
>>>> I see things here like 'Kick 1', 'Kick 1 Right' or 'C1'. When I click
>>>> on 'Kick 1' for example, I get a menu with some of the available
>>>> drums, but hardly all of them. I see that 'C1' in this case shows that
>>>> the kick drum sound corresponds to the C1 note. But what next? I still
>>>> need to access the mixer, right? If for nothing else, at least to
>>>> select multichannel output. Is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> 2015-03-04 21:31 GMT+01:00, joão victor <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>> hey sorry
>>>>> how do for exit tolist?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>> De: Patrick Perdue via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Para: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> Data: Quarta, 04 de Março de 2015 14:40
>>>>> Assunto: Re: [Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer
>>>>>
>>>>> I, for one, would be interested in how you do what you do, as I am
>>>>> thinking of trying Superior Drummer myself, and possibly in
>>>>> combination
>>>>> with a v-kit/pads/triggers of some sort.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> I use NVDA full time. Using SD is possible with NVDA, it just takes
>>>>>> more work, especially if you wish to make your own kits or customize
>>>>>> the sound of them. I eventually want to do a podcast on it, but it's
>>>>>> quite a comprehensive thing to summarize without it becoming too long
>>>>>> and boring to listen to. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As an aside, There's an AHK script that works with Superior Drummer
>>>>>> kind of, though I had little luck and so use my own methods to get
>>>>>> what I need done in the plugin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the reply, Alex. And may ask you which screen reader you
>>>>>>> use when working with the plugin (NVDA or Jaws)? The reason I ask is
>>>>>>> because I found some commercially available HSC hotspot sets for
>>>>>>> Jaws
>>>>>>> on one site, but honestly I'd only buy them if they are absolutely
>>>>>>> neccesary. I'm tired of Jaws, I'm trying to convert to NVDA and
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> why I'd like to leave Jaws out of it if possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-03-01 20:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>> It's a bear, but possible. I use it regularly, well more
>>>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>>>> I use Superior Drummer with the EZDrummer extensions, no sight
>>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>> I am after some good drum VSTs. I had a listen to a couple of
>>>>>>>>> Youtube
>>>>>>>>> videos yesterday and I like the way some of the expansions for
>>>>>>>>> EzDrummer sound. Soundwise I'd say that EzDrummer is exactly what
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> after. But I just don't know whether the plugin is accessible for
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> screen reader users. In some of the videos they mention a
>>>>>>>>> graphical
>>>>>>>>> interface, but that might not neccesarily mean anything, so I'd
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> to ask... Does someone here have any experiences with EzDrummer?
>>>>>>>>> I have read a couple of threads in the official Reaper forum and I
>>>>>>>>> think I should be able to set up EzDrummer, at least on the Reaper
>>>>>>>>> side, but I'm afraid that working with the plugin itself would
>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>> to be a completely different issue.
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks!
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