[Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer

Thu Mar 5 01:12:26 EST 2015

So, do you use one instance of the plugin with multiple outputs, sending to individual tracks with the routing matrix?
I'm pretty sure I know what that would look like, at least from Reaper's perspective. I've never actually used a multi-output plugin in that way, though.
I think I would also prefer mixing that way, because you could then use whatever is available for any part of the kit.

> On Mar 4, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott and all,
> 
> Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get going on a plan to tackle this.
> It'll most definitely be at least two parts. Editing preset files is
> probably enough to talk about for an hour. Hahahaha :) You can, with
> some experimenting, find different kit pieces and of course adjust
> volumes. All that stuff will be covered.
> 
> As far as the mixer and effects in SD goes, I don't use them often.
> The preset files themselves (.s20 file extension) are very daunting to
> do more than simple routing and effects (e.g., put a comp and EQ on a
> snare). If needed, I can kind of try and cover it, but I much prefer
> using individual tracks per drum, allowing the kit to be mixed with
> external plugins. It's just easier to tweak tones on the fly, instead
> of constantly going into a file to make changes and so on.
> 
> I have the Metal Foundry presets in .rpl format as well, because that
> entire thing is inaccessible. Fortunately, the EZX extensions are
> easier to get the factory presets loaded up.
> 
> For background, I use a MIDI keyboard to track drums, and for the kind
> of things I do, a bit of MIDI overdubbing to get all the sections
> together instead of trying to do a blast beat with two hands. LOL. I
> don't know much about MIDI assignments with SD, though that looks
> pretty easy to change looking at the preset file in front of me.
> 
> Peace,
> Alex
> 
> On 3/4/15, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> One more waiting in line for your rundown Alex. No pressure, but... do it!
>> :P
>> 
>> At the moment I'm using EZ Drummer 2, because I don't have the spare
>> cash kicking around to invest in SD without knowing whether I'll be
>> able to get enough control in a way that won't drive me insane and sap
>> the creativity. With EZ Drummer, I can use NVDA flat review to at
>> least get to the menu to choose presets and work from there.
>> Unfortunately, the automation controls we can access by hitting
>> Shift+P on the track are just generically labeled as control 1 through
>> 8, which isn't great, but random fiddling does make changes. Most of
>> the time though, I'm just going with a preset that sounds close-ish to
>> what I had in mind, bouncing out the audio when I'm done with the drum
>> part, and treating them like real drums when it comes to mix. It's not
>> ideal, and I'd probably use a shed load less system resources if I
>> could take care of some of these changes within EZ Drummer or SD
>> itself, so I'd definitely be interested in learning about how you do
>> your thing.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 3/4/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Alex. A podcast on this subject would be definitely cool, I'd
>>> surely listen to it. Patrik, glad to know that there is someone else
>>> beside me interested in this. Perhaps this will encourage Alex to do
>>> the podcast. :)
>>> BTW, Alex, I don't know, I'm very new to Reaper and DAWs in general
>>> and let alone EZDrummer or SD, but I can imagine how immense this
>>> topic is - especially from the screen reader user point of view - and
>>> so, if you decide to do it, couldn't it be in the form of a podcast
>>> series? Maybe that would make things more simple for you as well,
>>> because you wouldn't have to explain everything in one go.
>>> I have installed both EZDrummer and SD (don't ask how I got them :) )
>>> and from what I have tested so far I must say that SD is the more
>>> accessible option of the two. Sadly, however, I still don't know what
>>> to do with it. I have 'discovered' the Load/Save menu, the menu where
>>> you can select between the installed expansion libraries and the menu
>>> where you can select the drum kit, but that's about it.
>>> I see things here like 'Kick 1', 'Kick 1 Right' or 'C1'. When I click
>>> on 'Kick 1' for example, I get a menu with some of the available
>>> drums, but hardly all of them. I see that 'C1' in this case shows that
>>> the kick drum sound corresponds to the C1 note. But what next? I still
>>> need to access the mixer, right? If for nothing else, at least to
>>> select multichannel output. Is that correct?
>>> 
>>> 2015-03-04 21:31 GMT+01:00, joão victor <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>> hey sorry
>>>> how do for exit tolist?
>>>> 
>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>> De: Patrick Perdue via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Para: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> Data: Quarta, 04 de Março de 2015 14:40
>>>> Assunto: Re: [Rwp] Reaper and EzDrummer
>>>> 
>>>> I, for one, would be interested in how you do what you do, as I am
>>>> thinking of trying Superior Drummer myself, and possibly in combination
>>>> with a v-kit/pads/triggers of some sort.
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/4/2015 2:32 PM, Alex H. via RWP wrote:
>>>>> I use NVDA full time. Using SD is possible with NVDA, it just takes
>>>>> more work, especially if you wish to make your own kits or customize
>>>>> the sound of them. I eventually want to do a podcast on it, but it's
>>>>> quite a comprehensive thing to summarize without it becoming too long
>>>>> and boring to listen to. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> As an aside, There's an AHK script that works with Superior Drummer
>>>>> kind of, though I had little luck and so use my own methods to get
>>>>> what I need done in the plugin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the reply, Alex. And may ask you which screen reader you
>>>>>> use when working with the plugin (NVDA or Jaws)? The reason I ask is
>>>>>> because I found some commercially available HSC hotspot sets for Jaws
>>>>>> on one site, but honestly I'd only buy them if they are absolutely
>>>>>> neccesary. I'm tired of Jaws, I'm trying to convert to NVDA and that's
>>>>>> why I'd like to leave Jaws out of it if possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-03-01 20:04 GMT+01:00, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>> It's a bear, but possible. I use it regularly, well more specifically
>>>>>>> I use Superior Drummer with the EZDrummer extensions, no sight
>>>>>>> required.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/1/15, Matej Golian via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> I am after some good drum VSTs. I had a listen to a couple of
>>>>>>>> Youtube
>>>>>>>> videos yesterday and I like the way some of the expansions for
>>>>>>>> EzDrummer sound. Soundwise I'd say that EzDrummer is exactly what
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> after. But I just don't know whether the plugin is accessible for us
>>>>>>>> screen reader users. In some of the videos they mention a graphical
>>>>>>>> interface, but that might not neccesarily mean anything, so I'd like
>>>>>>>> to ask... Does someone here have any experiences with EzDrummer?
>>>>>>>> I have read a couple of threads in the official Reaper forum and I
>>>>>>>> think I should be able to set up EzDrummer, at least on the Reaper
>>>>>>>> side, but I'm afraid that working with the plugin itself would prove
>>>>>>>> to be a completely different issue.
>>>>>>>> Many thanks!
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