[Rwp] i can't edit notes in reaper

Jes jessmith at samobile.net
Tue Jul 28 06:29:54 EDT 2015 

Also, Amir, I did not ask you if you were familiar with Windows and screen readers, I asked you how many years have you been using these tools. Getting defensive and just saying that you are familiar with something proves nothing. Your answers to our questions are extremely vague and do not  help us to give you any meaningful assistance, though a few have tried. If you are more familiar with Qws and how it meets your needs, stay with that for midi stuff. Moving to Reaper means that you have to accept Reaper's limitations. If you can't do that, then perhaps you either need to learn how to learn the program, or stick with what you know. This is also why it is good to have many programs in your arsenal.


Jes

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> On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Juan Bello via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> please, read the manuals. there it says nothing about milliseconds and
> also, be more specific about the note editor in qws, though you should
> write to the qws list instead. Been using it for years without
> problems and the note editor was one of the feautres why i used it in
> the first place. Saying "you are quite wrong" but not saying why or
> how, isn't going to make a very solid or even productive argument.
> 
> 2015-07-27 16:00 GMT-05:00, David P Shortland via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>> Hi & Greetings from The Island Continent
>> 
>> I beg to differ about being able to Insert MIDI events in REAPERS MIDI
>> editor.
>> 
>> Once you have opened the MIDI event list, set the exact position where you
>> wish to enter your midi event
>> 
>> In the Edit Menu there are two Insert events menu items.
>> 
>> Insert Note at Cursor will open a Dialog Box where you can select all the
>> relevant parameters that you require.
>> 
>> Once you hit Return, the event will be Inserted.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> David P Shortland
>> DragonScore Productions
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Amir Ramezani via RWP
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:40 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Cc: Amir Ramezani
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] i can't edit notes in reaper
>> 
>> i am experience with windows and screen readers!
>> @Juan Bello, you are quite wrong
>> go to QWS's event editor, then you will know what i'm saying
>> in reaper's midi access, we just can edit notes, we can't insert note there
>> and that's a bad problem
>> and, my mean is not drag and drop, my mean is inserting notes at
>> different possitions without a keyboard
>> 
>> ۱۳۹۴-۰۵-۰۳ ۲۰:۲۰ GMT+۰۴:۳۰, Jes via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>> To be blunt Amir, most screen readers do not have a reliable drag and drop
>>> feature. It's a little hard to implement this feature, and whether a
>>> screen
>>> reader has the feature or not, how reliable the feature will work depends
>>> on
>>> how a particular software application is designed. That is off-topic for
>>> this particular list. Amir, I hope you don't mind me asking you this, but
>>> how much experience do you have with screen readers and Windows?
>>> 
>>> Jes
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, there's going to be some maths involved in advanced MIDI editing
>>>> no matter which software you choose, it's an unavoidable evil of event
>>>> lists. I sense that what you're looking for is the equivalent
>>>> experience that sighted folks have nowadays of dropping and dragging
>>>> notes around on a grid, but tbh, I haven't seen that approach made
>>>> accessible in any DAW yet for a screen reader user.
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Jul 2015, at 14:30, Amir Ramezani via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> i was working with qws, and the event editor is quite bad!, because
>>>>> you need to calculate milliseconds
>>>>> 
>>>>> ۱۳۹۴-۰۵-۰۱ ۲۰:۰۲ GMT+۰۴:۳۰, Mohamadreza Ghanbari via RWP
>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> You'd better consider using QWS. QWS has a rich environment for MIDI
>>>>>> recording and MIDI editing. entering repetitious notes is also
>>>>>> possible through progression dialogue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/23/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You should really consider buying a keyboard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any kind of manual note inserting by nature is going to be very
>>>>>>> tedious
>>>>>>> and inefficient.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Entry level Midi controlers are cheap now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7/23/2015 1:37 AM, Amir Ramezani via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> i knew that, but i want a way to insert notes very fast
>>>>>>>> for example, i want a way to insert a e5 an d3 at second 5 and
>>>>>>>> continue till second 1500
>>>>>>>> now, what i have to do?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ۱۳۹۴-۰۴-۳۱ ۲۱:۲۲ GMT+۰۴:۳۰, Gavin Grundlingh via RWP
>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>> If I don't have a MIDI keyboard to hand, what I do is the following:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1. Insert a new, empty track into a project with Ctrl+Alt+T.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2. Press Shift+Insert to insert an empty MIDI item on that track.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3. Press either Ctrl+Right Arrow or Ctrl+Left Arrow to select that
>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>> item.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4. Press the applications key, and select the item that says, "Open
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> built-in MIDI editor (set default behavior in preferences)". This
>>>>>>>>> should open the item in the MIDI editor.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 5. Press Alt+3 to switch to Event List View mode.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 6. Press I to insert a new event at the current position. From here,
>>>>>>>>> you can set the event type, position, channel, value, etc.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Of course, as Juan said, you could also use the built-in virtual
>>>>>>>>> MIDI
>>>>>>>>> keyboard, activated by pressing Alt+B from the main window.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/22/15, Juan Bello via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> that is exactly what I am telling you, if you can get to the midi
>>>>>>>>>> editor view you can insert notes and the like. And there is always
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> virtual midi keyboard you can use in reaper. Osara supports moving
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> the nearest midi event that you have, an I imagine notes are also
>>>>>>>>>> taken as midi events.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps But frankly, I am a Little surprised at the tone
>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-07-22 8:23 GMT-05:00, Amir Ramezani via RWP
>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> no, my mean is note editing, not editing of tracks!
>>>>>>>>>>> what i need to do in order to edit and insert notes?
>>>>>>>>>>> and, midi editor isn't supported at all
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ۱۳۹۴-۰۴-۳۱ ۱۰:۲۲ GMT+۰۴:۳۰, Juan Bello via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> right. I was wondering about switching view in reaper but I think
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> three are supported right now: Track view, item view and ruler
>>>>>>>>>>>> view,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is also the selection view.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-07-20 13:40 GMT-05:00, Amir Ramezani via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> first, how can i edit notes in reaper?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because i dont have midi controler now, and i need to edit notes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when i use Ctrl+J, it doesnt switch to the given note, or, how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> insert there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance
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