[Rwp] Reaper, and Musical Production Dreams!

Juan Bello juanpisjaws at gmail.com
Tue Jul 21 06:32:48 EDT 2015


taking advantage of the chance to introduce myself as well, I am
fairly new to this list.

1. I am from Bogotá, Colombia. have been a musician all my life,
concentrating on playing a lot and composing with different notation
software. out of all of those, i embrace and preffer above all,
lilypond. It never lets me down, its the best thing for me,
ridiculously efficient and it produces sheet music that looks good
enough to the point tthat I can do comercial transcription and
arranging work with it. The learning curve on this one is much harder
to the one reaper has, but its definitely worth every single minute
spent on learning it. Plus, it has no cost at all.

2. I have done extensive midi work before, and coming from the midi
world I definitely feel that integrating it with audio is the next
step to go. I believe that for really Little cost, reaper is winning
over all of the previous semi profesional things I had been using,
like audacity and goldwave I would not think that reaper is the first
choice for editting midi, qws has got that laid down pretty darn well.
I found so much use that i actually translated its whole interface to
spanish and am near done with the manuals. Not sure how a combo of qws
and reaper would work out but remind me, that as soon as I got it
figured out I can post many things about it here.

3. I have been using qws extensively for many things, but I feel that
on the use of the big guys, vst, libraries, etc. I am too far behind.
Since I use and have prodly donated in the past for NVDA I would not
really go into vipAudioAccess to buy their hsc sets because I believe
something else is available, I definitely need to exploit all of the
osara fx automating capabilities. Same goes for the equalization and
post production techniques. I know that auto hotkey is extensively
talked about here, but i have not being able to find even a single
script or ahk set that I can use, maybe either everyone does those for
their own personal use or there has been simply nothing done, or maybe
I really don't know how or hwere to search. I feel alright editting
audio in reaper... have not used it much but everything I tried seems
very good and usable, despite having a rather small learning curve.
Its just a matter of practicing, exploring and learning. Looking
through the archives I found many things, including some of the others
i had found before Reading the reaper wiki, regarding the fingers
Groove tool. Not sure if there are any definitive usage tutorials on
it by the blind, but audio quantization is something I would
definitely apreciate. Of course I would play it until I get it right,
but when you start getting into production I can imagine there
sometimes would be no time for that at all. I asume, from the Little I
have gathered is that you do créate a Groove using midi perhaps? and
then the tool would just autoMagically use that to align, say, a
drummer who got out of tempo on a few bars or so...

Anyway, hope to share my findings with all of you and also I hope to
have some kind of blog or whatever available to more permanently store
and share this info. I know that there are interesting, useful things
like www.reaperaccess.com but they are not being updated as often.

2015-07-20 19:03 GMT-05:00, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>:
> All of the features you're after are there, but yeah, what Chris said.
> Reaper itself runs light on resources and on more varied hardware than
> anything else I've seen. I've knocked out mix revisions on a netbook
> whilst on the road, it's ridiculously efficient. That said, for all
> its efficiency, in certain areas the user experience can be complex. I
> would say that MIDI is one of the least refined areas in terms of
> actual user experience, but that's JMO.
>
> For what it's worth, the evaluation license for Reaper never expires,
> so it's not like you'd need to invest any money in trying it, only
> time. At this point, you'll get a more rounded experience in Windows.
> It might also be worth you starting in Windows to have the option of a
> Reaper and QWS combo available, as in Reaper for tracking, mixing and
> exporting, QWS for the editing and dirty work in between. I've never
> used this combo firsthand, but can imagine it working fairly well if I
> needed to do more MIDI editing. It's not that you can't edit MIDI in
> Reaper, just that from what I've seen, other event lists display data
> in ways that are quicker to browse with a screen reader. Again, JMO,
> no doubt others will chime in and set me straight if that's incorrect.
>
> HTH a bit
>
> Scott
>
> On 7/21/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Midi is doable with reaper, but certainly isn't my first choice for midi
>> tools.
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2015 6:04 PM, Keith Hinton via RWP wrote:
>>> Dear listers,
>>> I'd like to give a quick introduction.
>>> I've posted before, but figured it's time for a reintroduction as it
>>> were.
>>>
>>> My name is Keith Hinton, and I currently reside in Prescott, Arizona.
>>> For years on end, I've had dreams of producing music perhaps someday
>>> for commercial purposes.
>>> However, I do not have a full time band wot work with.
>>> And, while I have become a big business owner over the last year, I am
>>> still building it, so it is not always profitable.
>>> You all know how that goes I'm sure, when customers need something
>>> they'll buy, and when they do not, they will not.
>>> So making profit doesn't always happen.
>>> Plus, since I build my business based upon the quality relationships I
>>> forge with folks from around the globe first and formost, short term
>>> profit is not worth it.
>>> Trustworthyness, respect, and likeability are far more important.
>>> So, with that being said, I have turned my mind to making music as
>>> another way that I can make income when my primary business is super
>>> slow.
>>> For anybody who wants to talk to me off list, you may feel free to dos
>>> o as well.
>>> But anyways, back to the topic at hand.
>>>
>>> At first, I considered buying CakeTalking and Sonar from Dancing dots
>>> legally.
>>> However, while I had a copy of Sonar at one point, I discovered that
>>> it could not run on my hardware well.
>>> At the moment, I do not have a purpose built DAW< nor the funds to
>>> obtain it,  so that's out of hte question for the time being
>>> certainly.
>>> One day, that will happen, but not today.
>>> So how could I get my musical dreams off the ground?
>>> Enter MIDI.
>>>
>>> I started using a program back in 2012 when I got a MIDI USB cable,
>>> called Quick Windows Sequencer.
>>> However, tap tempo, and many other htings that I require are not
>>> available.
>>> I also tryed using Cakewalk Sonar 8.53, but like I said, I ran in to
>>> all kinds of problems on all the machines I had.
>>> Dropouts, pops, clicks, and ultimately,blue screening Windows machines.
>>> That was very frustrating!
>>> Go to make a song, or even learn the program, and the only thing I
>>> could do ultimately was bloody audio!
>>> Yeah, I've been hanging around my UK friends for too long grin.
>>>
>>> Needless to say, that was totally unacceptable!
>>>
>>> I also used Apple's Logic Pro, GarageBand, and a couple of other
>>> programs and never got to where I wanted to go to!
>>> I know that the SWS Reaper extension helps with OS X accessibility, so
>>> I may tryt hat.
>>> However, I am geting ahead of myself.
>>> The only time I played with Reaper on Windows, prior to Osara being--
>>> developed, when ReaAccess was the only option, while I only used the
>>> built in ReaSynth that comes iwth Reaper, I was delighted to discover
>>> that:
>>> 1.
>>> WISAPI is properly supported!
>>> No latencey existed for me, and that was important, and perhaps the
>>> most important thing, I could record without experiencing any
>>> dropouts!
>>> I was amazed, to be sure.
>>>
>>> I haven't admittedly since then, either bought a Reaper llicense
>>> yet,nor have I played with Reaper on OS X with SWS or used Osara at
>>> all, so I don't know if Reaper can help me make my dreams come true! I
>>> am no programmer, I am only a musicain, and quite a good one
>>> especially if MIDI works properly!
>>>
>>> The problem mostly is, I need to be abel to produce good quality
>>> edited music using MIDI and ultimately make an MP3 audio out of it
>>> suitable for digital distribution and ppayment in the end with Reaper!
>>> Can any of this be done?
>>> Does Tap tempo exist?
>>> Do I need to even bother with CakeTalking and Cakewalk Sonar?
>>> I hear Reaper runs on all kinds of hardware that Cakewalk Sonar will
>>> not.
>>> Is that so?
>>> What are your experiences with Osara at this point and time, and I'd
>>> also like to hear from users of SWS!
>>> And, I would also appreciate hearing from those of you who do a lot with
>>> MIDI.
>>> This is the most important thing for me at this point and time.
>>> I may learn to make audio files and things later with Reaper, but MIDI
>>> is the most concerning feature I need.
>>> GarageBand has no accessible MIDI editor, nor does Logic, even though
>>> I dig the Apple instruments!
>>> Oh, they do sound great, and I even have done backing vocals something
>>> GarageBand and Logic can certainly be used for, but unless I can edit
>>> MIDI directly, I see little point to all my God given talents in music
>>> composition!
>>> And seeing as I started down the path to digital music production in
>>> 2012, I can't turn away now!
>>> SO, for all of you who know what it feels like not to be able to make
>>> your dreams come true, did Reaper help you in some way as well? What
>>> do you all with experience have to say?
>>> Is it worth buying a license in your respective opinions?
>>> Preferibly, I would value experienced folks that have been using
>>> Reaper for more than a month if possible, and not just in audio
>>> specific projects, at least  not at this time.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing from you all!
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading!
>>>
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