[RWP] Anybody using Reaper 3.76 and sound forge 8 on Windows 8?

Patrick Perdue patrick at pdaudio.net
Sat Jan 10 02:39:48 EST 2015


When times were tough, I've been able to get some audio work done on a tweaked virtual machine under some very specific conditions. For raw number crunching, it's perfectly snappy with hardware virtualization. Running things like lossless compression codecs and other generally CPU intensive things, on a properly configured virtual machine with some good hardware behind it, is usually no slower than doing the same on the host OS and hardware itself. Now, there are two emulated sound drivers that VMWare uses for modern flavors of Windows, the Creative Labs ES1373, and HDAudio. Both suck for different reasons. The ES1373 buffers can be adjusted such that, for playback, anyway, latency is low enough that using screen readers and such on virtual operating systems don't feel some virtual anymore. Recording is horribly delayed, with no way to compensate. The HDAudio driver is a little more sluggish, even at its best, then tweaking the ES1373 playback buffers, and recording is much better. Obviously, not something you would use for latency, timing critical applications. You can use some USB devices on virtual machines. I generally haven't had much luck with audio devices that aren't more than class compliant, though. Usually, very strange things happen when you attempt to install a proper audio driver for any decent interface. I did actually get Asio with pretty good latency to happen with one interface, but that broke with an upgrade of VMware fusion. But, for something basic, like two track editing in sound forge, you could quite happily use a virtual machine. Better than using a netbook, anyway. I have even done some strictly audio projects with reaper on virtual machines, with enough success to make it work, but not something I would recommend.


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> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:03 AM, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Yup that chick who wrote the article in windows secrets
> was complaining that you couldn't install a certain version of dot net framework in w8,
> so she kept an
> appropriate machine around for software that needed that.
> There are compatibility modes, and such for w8, but there's not even a w7 virtual windows 7 like w7 have a virtual xp mode for the higher versions of w7,
> that vm ware thing you can go get.
> which immulates xp.
> 
> Ms has it's own vm software, forget the name of it now,
> but that xp thing is nice on w7 if you just want to run an old xp thing now and then.
> 
> Not good for daws, as usually they only support really minimal audio systems like sound blaster compatible and basic usb audio, but hey, it's there.
> 
> They should have at least put something like that in w8, but they didn't.
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>> On 1/9/2015 5:21 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> I don't (and won't) use Windows 8/8.1 as my production environment, too many weird glitchy things, and impossible to get DPC latency as low as Windows 7 even on a good optimized machine.
>> That having been said, I have a Windows 8.1 box to play with, but have not tried using SoundForge 8 on it. You might actually have better luck using 7. It doesn't depend on the evil dot net frameworks and such, and is, in my opinion, more stable anyway.
>> 
>>> On 1/9/2015 2:46 PM, Nick Giannak wrote:
>>> Reaper 3, yes. Sound Forge 8...Hell no. I tried, real hard, in fact
>>> Forge 8 not working is the reason I know how to use Reaper.
>>>> On 1/9/2015 10:01 AM, Jes wrote:
>>>> Sad to say, but Windows 7 official life ends next Tuesday. We all need
>>>> to start planning to migrate to Windows 8.
>>>> Does reaper 3 and sound Forge 8 work in this version?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jes
>>>> 
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