[Rwp] OSARA key map

[Chris Belle]

That means a lot coming from another hot dog programmer, and I don't 
want to seem wishy washy,
or like I'm backing off what I said in my other email, but there are 
times when doing an artificial menu or over lay is jus the ticket.

I think Jamie just doesn't want to make that the default condition,
because too much tampering with the real interface can work against you,
and get in your way sometimes, and there are other menus we can get at 
the stufff that used to get us
ther by the alt tab order with reaccess.

One thing about it, when you're in that menu, you can't do other stuff,
that you might want to do,
but I think if 90 percent of us wanted that old feature back,
jamie would play ball, I don't presume to speak for him, but from 
working with him in the past closely on NVDA sonar issues,
he's a reasonable fellow.

And by god, since you are blessed to be a hot shot programmer, you have 
the option of rolling your own if you don't like something, since this 
is open source,
so then maybe we'll have two different style reaper tools,
'grin'.

As long as the fake menus and extra code don't bog down reaper any.

I can tell you for damn sure, ct and sonar and certain versions of jaws 
are terrible,
that code is so bloated that poor old sonar can't even keep up with 
volume changes, and the speech goes away while the ui updates,
yikes.
Anyway, onward and upward,



On 2/24/2015 9:18 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
> I must admit, I take exception to statements like, such and such is
> completely fake.  So what if it is fake.  Fake, I suppose, means that the
> sighted user doesn't see it.
>   So what?  Big deal.
>
> Or that the blind user interface needs to rely on the vfisual presentation,
> and not contain extra bits.
> Quite honestly, whatever helps me get the job done more quickly and easily
> is worth doing, fake or not, regardless of whether the sighties have that
> available or not.,
> I do understand how people want to talk in common terms with the sighted
> user, and I do understand the use case for that.
> But, the fact is, we are at a considerable disadvantage.  And, ruling
> anything, absolutely anything out for asthetic reasons is short sighted.  We
> should use whatever tricks are available, so long as they provide advantage.
> If the sightlings don't have it, too bad.  They got gobs of other things.
> They have so many advantages over us its mind boggling.  I'm not willing to
> throw anything over board, just because they don't have it, as long as it is
> the best alternative for us.
> I would far rather have a quick way of getting at some piece of information
> behind the scenes, if I can have that communicated to me in less time, or
> with less effort relative to using their standard techniques.
> Let us not let architectural asthetics, or artistic sensibilities inhibit
> the best solution for us.
> Productivity is the key.
>   
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of James Teh via
> RWP
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:40 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>
> On 25/02/2015 8:23 AM, Jim Noseworthy via RWP wrote:
>> Using the tab and shift-tab keys in ReaAccess, with an empty track, I
>> can tab to the mute, arm, solo, pan, volume, ETC.
> That's a ReaAccess specific feature. OSARA doesn't have an equivalent yet.
> I'm not convinced it should, as it's completely fake, but we'll see.
>
> Jamie
>
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