[Rwp] OSARA key map

Jim Snowbarger snowman at snowmanradio.com
Tue Feb 24 22:38:03 EST 2015 

Scott, 
Right,  thanks, that is what a transient is supposed to mean.  But, I
recorded  one item, with mostly silence, and just a few distinct hand claps.
I thought those would qualify as transients.  But, control right and left
arrow don't do anything, because there is just one item.  I expected reaper
to identify the individual hand claps, IF IT GOING TO DEAL IN TRANSIENTS.
Of course, I don't mind, since I work mostly with items.  But, it seems like
I don't quite have something right there.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Chesworth via RWP
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:27 PM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map

Hey Jim,

In this case, a transient is a spike in the wave form. Skip to previous or
next transient could be worded as skip to previous or next loud bit and it'd
be accurate enough.

Hth

Scott

On 2/25/15, Jim Snowbarger via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Can somebody explain what is meant by a transient?  I am an electrical 
> engineer, and I know what a transient actually is.  But, reaper seems  
> to be
> using that term for something slightly different.   I thought
> control+left/right arrows moved between transients.  But, that moves
> between
> items.  Not transients.  What am I missing?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
> Chesworth via RWP
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:12 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>
> If there's no audio in the project yet, then you don't have any 
> transients to move to yet either.
>
> Hth
>
> Scott
>
> On 2/24/15, Jim Noseworthy via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I was using a new project with a few newly added tracks but no audio 
>> was recorded on any of those tracks yet.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Derek 
>> Lane via RWP
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:51 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>>
>> Are you testing this in a project with audio on 1 or more tracks?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Noseworthy via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> To: "'Reapers Without Peepers'" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys:
>>>
>>> Using gn luca's key map, the tab and shift-tab keys don't seem to do 
>>> anything.  Am I missing something here?
>>>
>>> Thanks all over the place gang.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
>>> Belle via RWP
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:07 PM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>>>
>>> It's standing wave studios I think.
>>>
>>> It's a command line console thing,
>>> where you can type commands to nudge volume, and pan and lot of 
>>> other stuff, for faster work flow.
>>>
>>> yes, we sonar users are spoiled brats.
>>> Even with Jsonar, everything just works and is nicely already done, 
>>> reaper is like a motorcycle dirt bike while sonar is like a silver 
>>> eagle trailer bus with all the wet bar, and fridge, and snack bar 
>>> built in, with reaper, you get a hammer and screw drivers, and a 
>>> pile of wood, and it's up to you to build your own 'grin'.
>>>
>>> But, there are things to love about reaper.
>>> Go get gn luca's key map,
>>> it's pretty good start to a good basic documented set of tools, to 
>>> get some work done, now I'm off to see if the old numeric key pad 
>>> grow items and all that stuff I loved about reaccess is still there, 
>>> or if we have to create
>>>
>>> it
>>> again.
>>>
>>> I don't think reaper is gonna replace sonar any time soon, but I 
>>> would like to become comfortable enough with it to do a real project 
>>> or two, now it's just more or less a slicer dicer, sonar's pitch 
>>> time stretching is much better but a pain in the butt to implement, 
>>> and reaper's method of doing this kind of thing is just so easy.
>>> The sticky parts for me are midi editing and automation, I have to 
>>> come to terms with that somehow.
>>> Well, here's going forward.
>>>
>>> Lets see what happens this month.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/24/2015 9:15 AM, David Regan via RWP wrote:
>>>> Thanks Chris.  Yes you're right, the first part of my problem was 
>>>> the key bindings.  Now that I'm aware of that, I can at least 
>>>> assign some basic keystrokes.  I have really only used sonar with 
>>>> cak talking to this point so I have been accustomed to all of that 
>>>> stuff being mapped out, and having access to the training materials
etc.
>>>>
>>>> Now for my next show of ignorance.  What is sws?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
>>>> Belle via RWP
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 9:57 PM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>>>>
>>>> Hey, good for you man.
>>>>
>>>> Well, part of the problem I'm sure is that you don't have any key 
>>>> bindings going on, and I'd use NVDA, window-eyes and jaws are 
>>>> supposed to do MSAA, but all these screen-readers handle it a bit 
>>>> differently, and I have had the most mojo with NVDA.
>>>>
>>>> I still use the big bloaters some, but I'm more and more using NVDA 
>>>> these days, especially on the web.
>>>>
>>>> It's the only screen-reader that doesn't piss me off on a regular 
>>>> bassis 'grin';
>>>>
>>>>    Have you done all the stuff, install sws, and put the files 
>>>> where they're supposed to go and all that?
>>>>
>>>> Do you not get any feed back when you arrow around, if you're used 
>>>> to reaccess, it's not the same at all, this is a new deal.
>>>> I know how kermudgenly I am,
>>>> about getting used to things, so I knew for me that if i had 
>>>> reaccess expectations, I'd hang myself before I ever got started, 
>>>> so I'm pretending I don't know anything about reaper, and gonna 
>>>> grow with the new thing and see how far it goes.
>>>>
>>>> Don't give up, if an old fuzzy headed guy like me can make it work, 
>>>> anybody can 'grin'
>>>> I'm still learning myself, when I get more up to speed, I'll try 
>>>> and help others.
>>>>
>>>> Now one thing I want to figure out how to do is make automation 
>>>> behave the way i want.
>>>> And not snap back to the prior value when i let go the control.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see the obvious setting for that anyplace.
>>>> Patrick says it's just a default, and it can be disabled.
>>>> If I can make automation behave in reaper like it does in sonar, 
>>>> I'm one step closer to adopting reaper as a real daw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/24/2015 2:00 AM, David Regan via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Yes Chris I agree.  I donated a few days ago but so far I haven't 
>>>>> been
>>>> able
>>>>> to get reaper and osara working, nor have I been able to get 
>>>>> anybody to explain what I am doing wrong.  I have wasted a few 
>>>>> days on it and it's driving me crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed reaper version 4.77 32 bit and copied the 
>>>>> reaper_osara32.dll file into my reaper plugins folder.  I would 
>>>>> really appreciate it if somebody could tell me what to do after that.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Chris Belle via RWP
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 3:00 PM
>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA key map
>>>>>
>>>>> Just sent you a little something Jamie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reaper is my motorcycle I have torn apart on the work bench while 
>>>>> sonar is my car I drive, but if I end up using it more, then 
>>>>> there'll be more offerings down the line.
>>>>> Keep up the good work,
>>>>> and all you reaper cheap scapes
>>>>> yes you know who you are,
>>>>> cough up a few bucks, if everyone does that, then he aught to have 
>>>>> a nice pile of cash, that really encourages a man to get busy and 
>>>>> do something.
>>>>> I know it does me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/24/2015 12:02 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>> That's what I meant,
>>>>>> not specific tutorials,
>>>>>> jus the
>>>>>> stuff you mentioned.
>>>>>> I totally get it, you're preaching to the choir, remember, i do 
>>>>>> tutoring my  self 'grin'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/23/2015 11:47 PM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24/02/2015 3:43 PM, Chris Belle via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> The documentation is the big deal though, even for intermediate 
>>>>>>>> users who haven't been sleeping and breathing reaper, and those 
>>>>>>>> of us migrating from another daw.
>>>>>>> I've already provided some documentation, at least for OSARA 
>>>>>>> specific features. (As I understand it, that's already more than
>>> ReaAccess.
>>>>>>> :)) That documentation will also include the key bindings once 
>>>>>>> there's a key map. Beyond that, there's the REAPER documentation.
>>>>>>> Tutorials specific to blind users might be nice, but I certainly 
>>>>>>> don't have time for that myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>
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