[Rwp] OSARA keymap

[Derek Lane]

My thought, from a design perspective, would be to go with a keymap 
which offered the most functionality.
If one came along which was better, it could be another choice.
I'm not in a position to make that call though.



On 2/23/2015 2:00 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
> Fair point. A lot of this discussion has been kinda pontificating
> until we see what Jamie's working with as a starting point. I like the
> function keys thing, but nowhere near enough to say that I couldn't
> adjust to something else.
>
> No beeps and boops though, ok? They'd cause disappointment worthy of
> attention. :)
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 2/23/15, Jim Snowbarger via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> It's important not to get discouraged over the predictable fact that
>> opinions vary on virtually every aspect of any user interface.
>> In my opinion, there is absolutely no way to make everybody happy about
>> this.  There is no key map in the world that somebody won't like for some
>> reason.
>> If you told people that control+v would be used to paste, and they had
>> never
>> used that before, people would argue against it.  But, as it is, it is
>> common place, and nobody fusses about it.
>> If I were you, I would just bundle Osara with my own preferred key map.
>> And, if some common agreement came along later, it could be changed.  But,
>> more likely, people will just learn to use what is there, with minor
>> exceptions, and life will be good.
>>
>> I say, don't let discouragement over the predictable level of disagreement
>> about such a matter detract from the broader benefit what is being
>> accomplished more generally, and go from there.   If Osara can be
>> configurable in that regard, that would be great.
>> But, keep the focus on the functionality it provides, and let the
>> ergonomics
>> come later.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of James Teh via
>> RWP
>> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:32 PM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA keymap
>>
>> I can't find any solid info regarding CakeTalking's keymap, but I did find
>> one post that suggests they use m and s for mute and solo, and I imagine
>> this extends to arm and input echo as well. That is, if I'm correct, they
>> *don't* use function keys. We could do the same for OSARA, but that would
>> mean moving the marker and split keys.
>>
>> At this point, I'm tempted to just bundle my keymap until we can reach some
>> sort of better consensus.
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>> On 23/02/2015 1:10 PM, John Schucker via RWP wrote:
>>> I personally don't mind multiple key presses, and I'm pretty sure
>>> CakeTalking does this, for example. I also find function keys
>>> annoying, e.g. in GoldWave. They're a stretch for me to reach from the
>>> home row, so I just have to treat them as a separate row, and I
>>> usually end up counting and such. So I'm in favor of Jamie's keymap.
>>>
>>> Could we have a keymap import function, or some simple way to replace
>>> it? I mean, if we're just overwriting files, I don't see why Jamie
>>> can't have whatever keymap makes sense to him as a default. Then
>>> somebody else can maintain a map with function keys and such, similar
>>> to Reaccess I guess. If you want that, if it's such a problem for you
>>> that you can't use function keys, I'm guessing you'll know enough, or
>>> easily be able to learn, to overwrite the default Osara keymap. It
>>> sounds like all you should need to do is copy and paste a single file
>>> anyway, so it really shouldn't be that hard.
>>>
>>> But for what it's worth, I'd prefer non-function key mappings. I don't
>>> think pressing ctrl-shift-m, for instance, is all that much harder
>>> than pressing 'm' by itself, and certainly easier, for me at least,
>>> than figuring out what function key I need to try to find. I'd also
>>> think if people are that much in need of single keys, again, you could
>>> either import a map, remap them yourself, or get a control surface. I
>>> realize surfaces aren't cheap, even the Behringer is a couple hundred,
>>> but I imagine if you're arguing that you're doing so much serious work
>>> that ctrl-shift-m slows you down unnecessarily, you'd probably want
>>> some kind of surface anyway.
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