[Rwp] OSARA keymap

[Derek Lane]

I wonder if there is a way to compare reapers default action list, with that 
when reaaccess is added?
That would make life easier, I would think because we wouldn't have to play 
"find that action"
As a community we could prioritise things we wanted from that list.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Teh via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] OSARA keymap


> FWIW, I agree with most of this: single keys for common actions and reuse 
> of the key with modifiers for... well... modifications of that concept. I 
> personally find modifiers very quick to hit--much faster than hitting 
> function keys. (In Sonar, set selection start and end are mapped to f9 and 
> f10, and even after years of use, I still find this tedious on laptop 
> keyboards, which are all I use these days.) However, I accept that others 
> find modifiers as tedious as I do function keys. What I don't accept is 
> that function keys are better than modified keys for mute, solo and arm. 
> You can argue I'd "get use to it eventually", but I can equally argue the 
> same for modified keys. There's also no easy way for a newcomer to 
> remember this, which is very bad for such common actions. Unfortunately, 
> that leaves us with changing the bindings for split, marker, etc.
>
> Concerning compatibility, I am of course very keen to copy the best from 
> ReaAccess; that just makes sense. However, I will not simply do something 
> just because ReaAccess did it if there is a better way. One has to learn 
> the best from the past, but one should also always seek to improve beyond 
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Jamie
>
> On 23/02/2015 7:36 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Functions to import and export keymaps already exists in Reaper, so
>> that's good news for anyone who wants to maintain a separate map.
>>
>> I see a few things about these common functions requiring more than
>> single keys that'd make usability clunky:
>>
>> First, I find it hard to imagine how some of the current power users
>> would be able to work at the pace they've built up if they had to hold
>> down modifiers before some common functions and not others. You could
>> argue that they're power users, they can just maintain their own
>> mappings, but bigger picture, are we not trying to find something
>> agreeable to most to lessen the amount of questions that'd need to be
>> asked when someone is having a problem, and also pave the way for
>> newbies to become power users who can work at this speed in the
>> future?
>>
>> Second, the concept of common functions being bound to single
>> unmodified keys, then bringing in the modifiers to carry out more
>> global commands such as to unmute all tracks or announce which tracks
>> are current muted throughout the project seems pretty elegant here,
>> can't really think why anyone would want to hold down three keys to
>> mute something when they could just hit one, and the three key combo
>> is bound to something that's related, but used less often throughout a
>> session.
>>
>> Third, requiring a control surface to be able to work at a decent pace
>> just isn't a good thing fullstop, especially not in a DAW like Reaper
>> where the price and footprint is kept intentionally low. There are
>> fairly cheap single strip surfaces etc, but having owned a few, I
>> found them clunky and slow to use for anything beyond very specific
>> tasks, and unless OSARA is different, the amount of speech feedback
>> you get by default when using a surface is practically none. The
>> latter doesn't bother me really as I come from a Pro Tools background
>> where that's always been the case, but I've seen plenty of Sonar users
>> go goggle-eyed over how little the computer talks to Tools users, so I
>> don't think that'd be met well by most users.
>>
>> FWIW, I'd grudgingly give up on the crusade for function keys being
>> involved if we moved Mute, Solo and Arm to M, S and A respectively,
>> because it'd be another parallel between the Reaper and Pro Tools
>> keymaps that'd make my life easier in the long run, but i'd bet losing
>> their instinctive muscle memory for markers and splitting items would
>> cause fits of rage in some of the more accomplished editors. IMHO, the
>> more parallels between DAWs the better, and with Pro Tools still being
>> something of an industry standard, that makes a lot of sense. Trouble
>> is, Tools is a long way away from being widely used by screen reader
>> users, so I doubt my opinion will be shared by most people.
>>
>> Sorry to disagree over pretty much everything :)
>>
>> Scott
>>
>
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